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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Looks like HD recovery points on the rear.

I do think there is still a lot more cladding to come off yet. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
And there looks to be quite a bit of scope to fit smaller rims. I won’t go as far as to say 16”s will fit, but maybe there is hope for 17”s. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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seriesonenut



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So why cant we just see it now?

Talk about nervous launch......drip drip drip 2010 XS USW
1957 Series One 88 diesel
1958 Series One 88 4x2
Post #772348 9th May 2019 7:33pm
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NMBRPL8



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Looks like they have developed new wiper arms, too.
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Sulisuli



Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
I don’t dislike it however I may when I see it for real Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #772368 9th May 2019 9:03pm
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milesr3



Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Suffolk
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2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
Looks a lot like a RRS with a square back end.
Post #772395 9th May 2019 10:17pm
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mikelike



Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
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Ralf Speth says " Defender won't be an easy launch '' when talking about a recovery plan !

The C E O has come out publicly admitting this , Like DUH !

Maybe because it does not resemble a modern Defender , the icon that created a brand !

It is another suv , this is an epic fail !

Plough the internet people , nothing but negative everywhere .

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100inch



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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Has someone any ideas if the wheel arches are flexible/ removable? To me this one of the best (aka cost saving!) features on the Defender. m
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
I'd say the reaction online is mixed, but not overwhelmingly negative. I've seen a lot of comments about how it's a real Defender because "it has a roof gutter" which makes no sense whatsoever to me.

I put some of my thoughts here -

At this point though I think I'm going to leave the conversation, there isn't anything more to say. This vehicle is nothing like what I hoped for, but nothing I or anyone else says will stop it going into production or make JLR reconsider their choice of direction. The future for JLR will be whatever it is, but I see no point commenting further. They didn't listen... 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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tookaphotoof



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Netherlands 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Haven't watched the vid, but do have to say I'm getting a bit tired about all the negative complaints of people about it. None of us have seen it without all the camouflage and none of us have driven it already.
I don't think JLR are doing too well at the moment. Any of the complainers think they'd survive if they keep making the Defender as it was?
If you only go to social events with like minded Series / Defender fanboys you'd say they made a stupid move, but real world is hardly anyone likes a noisy, leaking vehicle.
I drive a Defender and a Caterham. None of my friends would ever buy these cars. Idea
Post #772432 10th May 2019 9:33am
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NoDo$h



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54 Freelander modded for mud
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2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
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edo



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United Kingdom 
surprised not round headlights in nod to the old car?
Post #772438 10th May 2019 10:28am
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green
tookaphotoof wrote:
Haven't watched the vid, but do have to say I'm getting a bit tired about all the negative complaints of people about it. None of us have seen it without all the camouflage and none of us have driven it already.
I don't think JLR are doing too well at the moment. Any of the complainers think they'd survive if they keep making the Defender as it was?
If you only go to social events with like minded Series / Defender fanboys you'd say they made a stupid move, but real world is hardly anyone likes a noisy, leaking vehicle.
I drive a Defender and a Caterham. None of my friends would ever buy these cars. Idea


No, clearly you didnt watch my video... 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
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