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Sulisuli



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Always very informative postings thanks for sharing the knowledge. 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
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ericvv



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Zagato wrote:
or I can do it for you Very Happy

Zag, while my truck is very well looked after here, and while I don’t really like the idea of driving on the wrong side of the road Shocked Rolling Eyes , it is clear that I have to plan a visit to you if I want that kind of detail and quality.

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #779555 29th Jun 2019 4:23pm
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boxoftricks



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Zag as much as I'd have loved you to do mine the budget is unfortunately not there following an unexpected house repair.... Couple of quick questions if I may.

For a 110 how many spray cans of 4941?

Also, do you apply 447 stone-chip under the wheel arches etc?

Thanks
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Zagato
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Yes stone chip under rear wheel arch and other high abrasion areas such as axles if you go off-road. You will need about 12 aerosols (presume you are wanting aerosols) of 4941 for a 110 minimum. I charge £490 but to DIY budget for about £180 these days with ACF-50 BUT you do need a professional mask £80, plus filters £20. DO NOT breath in the acid convertor, it is lethal let alone the other products. You will damage your lungs permanently, ask me how I know!! Even with pro filters it gets through Sad

This site gives an idea of price of kits. Rejel.com Thumbs Up
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boxoftricks



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Thanks. I was planning to use POR15 Metal Prep that I already have in a hand pumped bottle rather than the aerosol acid converter. Am I safe to assume they are basically the same thing?
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Zagato
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Yes, they are Thumbs Up Actually Metal Prep (Used to be called Metal Ready) is a water based acid convertor whilst Dinitrol RC900 is an epoxy based acid convertor. They are both only as good as you prep the metal, I.e. Get as much rust off as possible, down to bare metal if you can. You will be fine spraying Dinitrol ML or 4941 directly over the top of Metal Prep without rinsing after application, a paint product would require it however.
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boxoftricks



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Great thanks. Appreciate your advice.
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boxoftricks



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Thanks for all your help and advice Zag. Got the underside treated this weekend.


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It’s one hell of a mucky job but pleased how it turned out. Now just need to protect the rest.
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Sulisuli



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That’s tidy work boxoftricks Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
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Post #781494 14th Jul 2019 8:32pm
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NormanD



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For those who wish to follows Zagato's pistol grip style pressure washer lance arrangement, mines just arrived from kranzle Aquaspray, part numbers as follows: - Stub Lance 12391, M22 Gun 12491
Link to website: - https://kranzle-pressure-washers.co.uk/ NormanD WE191

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Post #781565 15th Jul 2019 12:19pm
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Zagato
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boxoftricks wrote:
Thanks for all your help and advice Zag. Got the underside treated this weekend.

It’s one hell of a mucky job but pleased how it turned out. Now just need to protect the rest.


Looks a nice job Thumbs Up
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Joe the Plumber



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May I add another vote for Kranzle pressure washers. I've had a K1152 TST for five years and although it was expensive, it's been out of this world compared to my previous DIY store ones.

If you're REALLY keen, after you've washed all the muck off, you'll want one of these too:

https://www.cardryers.co.uk/Master-Blaster-Car-Dryer.php

They're absolutely fantastic. Just don't give it a whirl in your living room when you unpack it though....
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Def2WazzaMan



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Do rust converters work
Thanks for this guide. I've been looking into Dinitrol products online. I have some rust evident around the wheel arches and noticed they produce a rust converter spray called RC 900. Does this spray work and stop any further corrosion or is it best to viist a professional body shop? https://www.tiltrak.com/product/dinitrol-rc900-rust-converter/
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boxoftricks



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Zagato wrote:
boxoftricks wrote:
Thanks for all your help and advice Zag. Got the underside treated this weekend.

It’s one hell of a mucky job but pleased how it turned out. Now just need to protect the rest.


Looks a nice job Thumbs Up


Thanks, high praise from a Pro Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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Siwynne



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I received my kit from Rejel yesterday. I’m looking at treating on Tuesday while the weather is hot and it will all flow well.

I’m looking at removing bumper grill headlamp surrounds and mud flaps and brackets for access.

Are there any other items I should remove (110 usw). Do the plastic trays under seats need removing?

I have also seen a dinitrol guide that suggest some holes should be drilled the plugged. Is this correct. If so does anybody have a copy of the guide available.
Can’t wait to get stuck into this as the lack of treatment currently really lets my truck down
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