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HK07



Member Since: 15 Dec 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 746

England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
I post this purely out of interest to others in this new vehicle, nothing to do with me.

I hope I'm not breaking any rules.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2023-ineos-grenadier 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned.

1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned.

1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned.
Post #993589 22nd May 2023 10:17am
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Ashbyandy



Member Since: 17 Dec 2015
Location: Leicestershire
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England 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Adventure Phoenix Orange
Interesting, and I wonder why. Is it in the hope of making some quick money, would be nice to know the original price paid, and what the hammer comes down at, that is if it makes its reserve price, what ever it might be. Please let the forum know what it goes for, should we miss it,

Thanks
Andy 👍
Post #993599 22nd May 2023 11:44am
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lightning



Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
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This is nothing new

lt happens when a desirable vehicle is in short supply, or there's as long waiting list. Happened with the new Defender and the Suzuki Jimny (in fact still happening with the Suzuki)

ln fact there were so many "flippers" buying new Defenders that LR eventually made buyers sign an agreement not to sell for six months.
Post #993833 24th May 2023 9:59am
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Lightning - the LR dealers are still demanding buyers sign that declaration but it’s 12 months at my local dealer. I refused to for my 90 delivered 2 months ago today as a cash buyer who has now purchased 15 Land Rover products mostly new from 2 dealers since 1996. Salesman went into a tailspin and had to have a discussion with his manager and the DP at that branch. I’m sure if that branch was still the solo franchise of the family who owned it I would not have had an issue but the dealership is part of a national chain and I was told I wouldn’t be able to order another new JLR product if I didn’t sign. I .et them stew for a couple of days before they checked my purchasing record and then relented and reduced it to 3 months! It was all to do with “due diligence” and their company ISO accreditation I was told! Total BS. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #993887 24th May 2023 3:33pm
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J77



Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
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I Wasn’t asked to sign anything when I picked up my 90, I signed one when I picked up the 110 but traded that in at 8 months old no issues. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
Post #993910 24th May 2023 7:05pm
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Retroanaconda



Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
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Scotland 
It’s not enforceable, they can’t stop you doing what you want with your personal property regardless of what you have signed.

All they’d be able to do would be refuse to sell you another one, which is their prerogative, but I doubt they’d even do that. Depends how hard LR are on them about it I guess.
Post #993911 24th May 2023 7:05pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
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Not being allowed to buy another new Land Rover isn’t likely to be of consequence to me as I think I’ve just bought my last one. JLR is dragging out electrification and I expect that any EV Land Rover will simply price me out of ownership. If there is a new 4x4 coming to my drive it will be this


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 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #993951 25th May 2023 8:43am
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Moo



Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
Location: Bath
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Ukraine 
J77 wrote:
I Wasn’t asked to sign anything when I picked up my 90, I signed one when I picked up the 110 but traded that in at 8 months old no issues.


I wasn't asked to sign anything for my 110. Ordered June 22, delivery October 22. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #993960 25th May 2023 9:53am
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Bowbearer



Member Since: 12 Aug 2022
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 1985 Defender 110 200 Tdi SW Auto Baltic Blue
Tim,

That Munroe is Top.

Defo the new "old" defender.

No style just substance.

Good price as well.
Post #993993 25th May 2023 2:08pm
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Moo



Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
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Ukraine 
An owners view.

 Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #993996 25th May 2023 2:39pm
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Japseroony



Member Since: 02 Jan 2008
Location: North East England
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England 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Moo, that's not the car version its the commercial and hence the seats are 70mm further forward Thumbs Up Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.
Post #994013 25th May 2023 4:33pm
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bell-auto-services



Member Since: 08 Jul 2007
Location: North Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Same same in the back on my commercial, with the seats forward 70/80mm compared to the two car options they offered Trail master and Field master.

That is also why the trims are with a gap forward of the wheels arches.

Not bad as a commercial vehicle goes I suppose as least a 5 seat option is offered unlike in the Defender sadly. Sad

STATION WAGON
The standard five-seat Grenadier Station Wagon is certified as a commercial vehicle and is fitted with a cargo barrier, to provide the optimum balance between payload and passenger carrying capability.


https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/the-vehicle/vehicle-configurator
Post #994015 25th May 2023 4:35pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I imagine that there's a substantial difference in RFL between the commercial and non-commercial versions.
Post #994019 25th May 2023 5:55pm
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Japseroony



Member Since: 02 Jan 2008
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England 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red
Just a thought Moo but have you adjusted the steering wheel as when my friend got his it was fully out and very close to his chest!

This might help you move the seat forwards giving slightly more leg room in the rear Thumbs Up Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free

"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you.
Post #994028 25th May 2023 7:54pm
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Moo



Member Since: 01 Oct 2021
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Ukraine 
Not my car, I've got a new Defender. I found it on You Tube. Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #994057 25th May 2023 10:52pm
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