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Kit



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Crapola.

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Ineos intend to sell the vehicle at £35000 based on 25,000 units per annum Whistle

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this one of the main reasons why JLR ceased production because they could only sell 20,000 units a year and their average price was nearly £30,000.

Why would the government want to sink our money into a company that had no direct experience of manufacturing and marketing of automobiles. Question Santorini 90XS SW
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As some of you have strong opinions, I hope you have filled in their questionnaire online (at their site). They ask, what do YOU want? They even ask how it should be powered: petrol, hybrid, electric, etc. My only fear is that the price will be stupid. As it's going to be a small company (albeit attached to a huge one), I fear niche-company prices. Ideally, I think, it should be no more than £30k. Am I a dreamer? Rolling Eyes

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They are many companies operating in Britain who don't share his belief that German engineers are better - especially in motor manufacturing! I run a small manufacturing business myself, and I used to think German engineering was king - until we experienced some poor German engineering! I don't think BMW, Audi, or VW have ever been top of the JD Power survey, have they? If they were, I missed it.

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£30k is wishful thinking.

Personally, I think it's all pie in the sky. JLR would contest any Defender look alike, so it would have to be designed from scratch, albeit with the knowledge of what has gone before, but their biggest problem will be finding a suitable power plant, as no way would they get Government funding for the size of diesel & petrol engines mentioned, unless they could satisfy the impending environmental impact legislation.

If they intend producing a very reliable vehicle, then production costs would have to reflect that, by putting it in the league of the Merc G-Wagon costs, possibly a bit cheaper if they dispense with the fancy electronics and cosy interior.

So double it and say £60k+.

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I'm not sure what surprised me most about the video; that they needed to use Mitsubishi's in the green landing scenes, or that you could actually here Ratcliffe speaking as he was driving!

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rockster57 wrote:
Felicity definitely has her merits but in keeping with the spirit of the concept, how about....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatpict...urers.html

or

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bingham


I think FK would be perfect. Always covered in mud, looks good in town, also of the same 'vintage' as the original Def.

There's always VBH who loves Defs and is often bouncing around in them on 5th Gear, wooping and laughing...



http://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-press-an...5528446141

Or perhaps someone who isn't famous but really 'knows' Defs...


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 Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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I was reading a local paper last week and I'm sure it was stated that they intend to build the vehicle in the North East of England. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard

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Says he is to build the successor to the Defender..

Is the DC-100 not the successor to the Defender?! Confused Whistle

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Well, at least you believe JLR will make it.

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As predicted, pie in the sky http://bit.ly/2y0HVeS

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That's just legal posturing, isn't it? I'm not up too much on trademark law, but seeing as the Ibex has already been, and wasn't contested by Land Rover at the time, then I seriously think LR's attempt would be thrown out. There's the Bollinger, and the Lada Niva as well. Trademarking a boxy car shape is surely impossible this late in the car-design game.

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Projekt Grenadier survey

So that Jim Ratcliffe guy who's planning on rebuilding the Defender or something like it has got a website and a survey for us 4x4 drivers. Feel free to fill it out with your opinions Thumbs Up

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Merged into Projekt Grenadier thread - it's not a Defender so let's keep the forum tidy and keep it in OT Smile  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top Cool
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Sorry couldn't find this thread Laughing 1998 Land Rover Defender 110 County Station Wagon Cool
1995 Land Rover Defender 110 V8 Station Wagon ~ Sold Sad
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