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Slideywindows



Member Since: 09 Sep 2016
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So the black awful vehicle in the pics above is "cool" as its "gansta/Cheshire spec."

If you tried, how much further away from the Icon that took 70 years to create could you get?

Someone should be shot for putting a Defender badge on that - and the others like it.

Post #832722 22nd May 2020 10:35pm
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JackW



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United States 1998 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Coniston Green

Rory does a pretty good review here:

Post #832724 22nd May 2020 10:38pm
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RDR



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Black pack doesn’t suit it. I had black pack on a black d3 with privacy it was way to gangsta it’s an effect achieved on virtually any car with that combo. There’s a trend on defenders around here to do that pano glass conversion with black glass and add low profile wheels I never thought you could do “gangsta“ on a Classic defender but you can and people do so prepare to see a lot of that spec Confused D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D5 MY19 HSE to be replaced by New Defender Smile

Post #832759 23rd May 2020 7:22am
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Tim in Scotland



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I think Rory Reid has given New Defender some features JLR might not have been aware of......... “ it can drive on water” now if JLR made it do that why did they give it 900mm wading ability? Also “there is a wading setting that will close the ventilation system to prevent water getting to the system” - I haven’t read about that anywhere in the various tests that have involved deep wading......... Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top converted into a Station Wagon
Departing soon - Mini Countryman PHEV To be replaced by Defender D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green in mid June 2020

Post #832783 23rd May 2020 8:32am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

I think I have read that whatever setting you dial in for wading does close the ventilation system to prevent water getting to the system - not sure where though...

Post #832787 23rd May 2020 8:57am
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

I was called out to a storm repair job last night and saw one of these parked on someones driveway next to a Range Rover. Presumably someone from JLR judging by the area. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

Post #832789 23rd May 2020 9:01am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Would be a coincidence but?


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Post #832804 23rd May 2020 9:38am
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J77



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
I think Rory Reid has given New Defender some features JLR might not have been aware of......... “ it can drive on water” now if JLR made it do that why did they give it 900mm wading ability? Also “there is a wading setting that will close the ventilation system to prevent water getting to the system” - I haven’t read about that anywhere in the various tests that have involved deep wading.........


TR now has a wade setting, it prepares the vehicle by closing the vents and raising the suspension.

Post #832812 23rd May 2020 10:06am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Something to look forward to next time we have flooding will be the f***wit who's driven his new Discovery Defender into nine feet of water and is outraged that he's just written it off. Laughing

Post #832815 23rd May 2020 10:09am
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RDR



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Indeed there will be many new owners thinking they are invincible especially when there are floods or snow.

If I recall they have a standing water water specification it was either 30 or 90 mins where it can stand at its max wade depth and be absolutely fine. I think that’s how they determine the wade depth rather than factoring in bow wave effect which depends on driver skill. D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D5 MY19 HSE to be replaced by New Defender Smile

Post #832819 23rd May 2020 10:16am
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22900013A



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

Supacat wrote:
Would be a coincidence but?


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I only saw it from afar but yes it was a 110 in that colour. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"

Post #832872 23rd May 2020 1:53pm
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

RDR wrote:

If I recall they have a standing water water specification it was either 30 or 90 mins where it can stand at its max wade depth and be absolutely fine. I think that’s how they determine the wade depth rather than factoring in bow wave effect which depends on driver skill.


I'd not thought of it in those terms. I had assumed it was just the measurement from the ground to the lowest point of the air intake.

Do you have any further info?

Post #832924 23rd May 2020 5:16pm
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NinetyTD4



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Wales 2012 Defender 90 Other SW Keswick Green

I would like to express my hope somebody will take the direct challenge to compare an 'old' Defender 90 to the New 90 once they arrive on the street. Would be great to see where the old one nails it, so most probably take it Offroad and not to the ice cream shop. Never forget: cars have owners, Defenders have field service personnel.

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NinetyTD4



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Wales 2012 Defender 90 Other SW Keswick Green

I would like to express my hope somebody will take the direct challenge to compare an 'old' Defender 90 to the New 90 once they arrive on the street. Would be great to see where the old one nails it, so most probably take it Offroad and not to the ice cream shop. Never forget: cars have owners, Defenders have field service personnel.

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RDR



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I’m sure there will be tons of videos like that over time. I think a stock classic defender 90 vs a stock defender 90 might get a run for its money off road i it will be fun to see. D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D5 MY19 HSE to be replaced by New Defender Smile

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