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spudfan



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Location: Co Donegal
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Ireland 
My 1992 200 tdi 110 left Solihull as a pick up. I bought it in 1996 and had it converted into a 9 seat station wagon. I do not think projects like this will be possible with the new Defender.. Will the new Defender have removable seat bases? Have not seen this in the advertising blurb. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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100inch



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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Naks wrote:
Why the 2020 Land Rover Defender Is Great Off-Road: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/land-rover...es-review/


"... Air Suspension

Air suspensions are usually huge no-nos for off-roading—despite the fact Land Rover has been using them for years. The issue is simple: At maximum travel (which is necessary for maximum ground clearance) the air bag becomes stiff and unwieldy, making impacts harsh, slowing you down, and increasing the odds that something goes wrong.

Where the Defender's optional air suspension differs from prior systems is that it uses multiple stages in its long-travel air suspension. This means that even at max off-road height there's still plenty of travel and impact absorption left in the suspension. The four corners of the air suspension are also cross-linked. This means that when one corner of the air suspension has fully compressed, it pushes the air to the opposite side of the truck, pushing the wheel down and back on the ground like a live axle vehicle would, thereby increasing traction. ..."


I don't know why some people believe you need air suspension at extended settings for higher speed offroad. If standard clearance is not enough at, lets say 50km plus then I guess you are going probably too quick for your own good. I found the air suspension picks it up on its own if extended travel is required most the time. We drove through the Flinders National Park just a few months ago with the 2018 Sport and it just showed again how good it all works, but interesting enough I hear the same air suspension comments since I bought my first EAS RR in 93, mainly from people who never owned one. m
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LandymanStefan



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Location: Surrey
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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
*car bings*
Message: ‘Air suspension inactive.’
‘Max speed 30mph’

Seen that a fair few times in an l322
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Naks



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Post #823404 5th Apr 2020 8:21am
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Ecco



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Location: Kuala Lumpur
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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
..much as i do not like this pretending JLR abomination , based on my personal experience with P38, which was/still is flawless , and thats including air suspension (yes, vehicle cursed for exactly this part), i have positive opinion about it. But im not quite sure about it if you wanna use car with air suspension for some really remote off roading, and i think conventional suspension system is better in such case, because, last thing you want is to wake up in the morning and realize that car has sat down on to some underlying rock and damaged something else, or whatever case may be..again, my personal experience with AES is very positive, with vehicle which was cursed for such system...go figure..
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zilch



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LandymanStefan wrote:
*car bings*
Message: ‘Air suspension inactive.’
‘Max speed 30mph’

Seen that a fair few times in an l322


interesting, i have had air compressor failure in my 2007 L320 RRS but it kept the vehicle at normal ride height
and no speed restrictions..

If you go bush you can just add a cheap emergency air up system (EAS) that enables you to raise the vehicle with a standard
air compressor and get you to the nearest service centre (even if it is 1000K's over rough terrain), quite a few people use
these in Australia when they do some pretty long outback tours (months) in their modern Landies yet another pommie bar steward down under

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MY10 3.0 RR Sport
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Ecco



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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
..i think issue is when air suspension bag/hoses/valves goes bad..air compressor may stall, but you still have air tank and if airbags and hoses doesnt leak, car will not drop quickly..
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LandymanStefan



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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
The issues with my dads old l322 were the ride height sensors especially if the car hadn’t moved for a while. He used to unplug them and exercise them then reset the message and it would be ok after that. The first couple of times were a bit of a panic though
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Was always coming back to both of my RRS to find one corner or another had slumped, making the thing look very broken until you started the engine and let the thing reset itself. There was also a very common issue with the compressor, an expensive fix at the main dealer as it wasn't a serviceable part, but later there was someone who had done some digging and offered service/repair kits.
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Ecco



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Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
Thats exactly how it looked for me when i got P38..then i removed valve block (car air suspension was broken when i got it), disassemble whole thing and quickly learn, its as simple as putting few lego blocks next to each other with some ring seals (which were rotten, hence leaks) in between. Fixed it, sealed with seals used on oil and gas compressor pumps inlets, and it never failed again, ever since(10 years+)..its very very simple system...what i think is wrong with air suspension offroad is, some tree, small rock or whatever, hit your air hose, or cut in to air suspension bag and car goes down in no time, hopefully without hitting anything under it and causing more damage..
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Tim in Scotland



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 Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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zilch



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Supacat wrote:
but later there was someone who had done some digging and offered service/repair kits.


$19.95 on ebay for a compressor repair kit.. bargain and far cheaper than a new compressor if you can avoid it. yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Same with the variable vane turbo tech. If you got a sticking actuator then the answer from JLR was you needed a new turbo ~ fine in a sense whilst under warranty, both from the perspective of cost to the owner and also the engineers wanting the whole units returned for examination/investigation but this situation continued well after warranty expired on the new models.
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Tim in Scotland



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Far fewer problems With air suspension now with L405 and L494 (and I assume Discovery 5) as the suspension compressor is now in the spare wheel well inside the car - the full sized spare sits over it but it’s a pain to get the battery out as it is also back there now. I assume that the lessons have been learned and New Defender has the compressor inside the car as well. Less opportunity for water, salt and dirt to get in and block the filters Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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Naks



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2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
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Post #823935 7th Apr 2020 7:36pm
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