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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
like defender3.net ? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #822689 1st Apr 2020 9:44am
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Tim in Scotland



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Martin’s RRSport2 forum for L494 owners died a death because everyone wanted to stay on the RRSport forum so I doubt he’s going to rush into creating NewDefnder.net. BabyRR for Evoque owners is full of tumbleweed blowing through the sub-forums too. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #822692 1st Apr 2020 9:53am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
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Australia 
I do not remember anything like the negativity on rrsport.co.uk Tim when they launched the new Sport as you find here yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #822701 1st Apr 2020 11:04am
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
^^^ That’s because the new RRS was a sensible, attractive and considered evolution of the previous model(s) as all the RRs have seen. Also, same usability, target audience, finish, budget etc.

The new Def on the other hand, at least to us owners of Puma/Pre-Puma varients, have seen a vehicle that loses the evolution. In looks, affordability, adaptability, character, simplicity etc. Also in terms of target demographic. It is a new car for a new audience. Or for a Discovery audience. But for most (by no means all) of us, we’ve been forgotten/ignored/excluded. No matter, I love my DCPU, so I’m happy.... Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
Post #822704 1st Apr 2020 11:13am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
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Australia 
Maybe a better option is on Disco3.co.uk then for the sub forum.. Laughing Whistle yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #822712 1st Apr 2020 11:44am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Australia 
ditto post yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #822713 1st Apr 2020 11:44am
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
zilch wrote:
Hope it is feasible for Martin to set up a separate forum for the defender 2.. this sub forum
is hardly a model for new owners to share issues and problems, there is just to much negativity


Post positive things then...

Start your own threads...

Be pro~active and get your own post count up...

"Before the dawn I do not demand the darkness to go, but patiently wait for the sun to rise"
Post #822724 1st Apr 2020 12:43pm
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Australia 
deep down i do not think that will work.. Whistle yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #822860 1st Apr 2020 10:40pm
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tookaphotoof



Member Since: 18 Mar 2013
Location: dordrecht
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Netherlands 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
People should try to grow up. You don't like it, you don't read it. That way we don't need a new forum. No need to act like an "old Defender snob".
Post #822904 2nd Apr 2020 9:06am
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J77



Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
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Scotland 
Just been on the configurator playing around with my build and I notice LR have been busy putting the option prices up Rolling Eyes
Post #822917 2nd Apr 2020 11:03am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Why the 2020 Land Rover Defender Is Great Off-Road: https://www.motortrend.com/cars/land-rover...es-review/


"... Air Suspension

Air suspensions are usually huge no-nos for off-roading—despite the fact Land Rover has been using them for years. The issue is simple: At maximum travel (which is necessary for maximum ground clearance) the air bag becomes stiff and unwieldy, making impacts harsh, slowing you down, and increasing the odds that something goes wrong.

Where the Defender's optional air suspension differs from prior systems is that it uses multiple stages in its long-travel air suspension. This means that even at max off-road height there's still plenty of travel and impact absorption left in the suspension. The four corners of the air suspension are also cross-linked. This means that when one corner of the air suspension has fully compressed, it pushes the air to the opposite side of the truck, pushing the wheel down and back on the ground like a live axle vehicle would, thereby increasing traction. ..." --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
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Post #822994 2nd Apr 2020 6:02pm
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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Ireland 
Very enjoyable. I remember when Top Gear was like that. Engaging and it was actually about the car and not the personalities presenting the show. Yep the days of William Wollard and Co. I suppose it is like the choice between the old Top Gear (read old Defender) and the New Top Gear from J Clarkson onwards (read New Defender).
Speed was never my thing so the ability to travel over the rough stuff quickly would not be a deal breaker for me. The lack of over all clearance between the floor and the ground would be an issue with me. I didn't see anything in that, that the older Defender would not be capable of doing, albeit it at a more modest pace.
Personally I do not find the old Defender cramped. Then I am not 6 foot let alone 6ft 4 or 6ft 5. I find the forward vision is excellent. If I'd be following the convoy in my tdi or Puma I would probably have arrived at the destination while the others had arrived, showered, packed, boarded the plane, crossed the Atlantic and arrived back in Europe. But , like I said speed was never my thing... 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #823206 3rd Apr 2020 7:08pm
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nidge n



Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
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I went on the LR Defender configurator last night, my god, the options go on and on, if you ticked them all you would need a serious wallet. I couldn't find the option Character though. The price jump for the different engines is eye watering to start with. Lets you know what you're in for.
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
You need a serious wallet before you click ANY of them!
Post #823233 3rd Apr 2020 8:58pm
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