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Ianh



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Ask the garage/ dealer What fault codes are showing, that will help the experts on here assist in localising the cause. Note I’m assuming some fault codes must be there.

It could be any of the things people have highlighted, for instance I had similar issues with going into limp mode. Then real trouble starting. Left for a day would start but not instantly. Then if stopped would not start again.Turned out to be the EGR on my 2.2. But I quickly identified likely cause from fault codes and searching here.
Note:- I also got that slight whistle
The problem with the EGR sticking happens from about 50k miles from what I can see. What miles are on your defender 2.2 ?

Ps I changed the EGR myself with great advice from a member. Not technically difficult but incredibly frustrating due to access to nuts , bolts , studs and pipe clips. Which reminds me I must write up a how to on that one as there is one for the 2.4 but not 2.2.
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JimG



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Hi, unfortunately they have told me that no fault codes have been registered. They think it’s a timing issue but that’s more of an educated guess I think. The vehicle just won’t start but she will crank all day. Once you use a bit of quick start she starts up and runs fine. The told me that they changed all the probable sensors. Fuel filter, housing and lines have been changed. Fuel pump, injectors etc have been changed previously. I have checked the relays and and looked for obvious signs of loose wiring etc. The EGR was removed previously and she has had an ECO Remap by the same people who done the injectors, the same people who are currently looking at the vehicle. The whistle sound like and electronic whistle/ constant ping! Also thanks Joe-130 I have passed your information on.
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G4UJS



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Hi Jim,

What a nightmare for you!!

Is this at a. Land Rover Specialist?

Cheers

Rob
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JimG



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It is with a garage that work with Defenders but not a Land Rover dealership.
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G4UJS



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Have they fixed it yet?
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Clemmo



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Guessing this must be resolved?

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JimG



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Sorry All, working at sea at the min. No it still hasn’t been resolved. LR changing the high pressure fuel pump tomorrow.
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JimG



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Hi All, just got word this evening that the garage thinks they have sorted the problem. The problem seems to have been a stretched timing chain causing the timing to be slightly out! Fingers crossed!
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G4UJS



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Clemmo



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JimG wrote:
Hi All, just got word this evening that the garage thinks they have sorted the problem. The problem seems to have been a stretched timing chain causing the timing to be slightly out! Fingers crossed!


Blimey...that would worry me.

What’s the cause of the stretched chain??...usually very high mileage or no maintenance.
No good just replacing the chain... many checks are required.

Really hope the warranty covers everything you need

Clemmo Neutral Make today a little better than yesterday but not so good as tomorrow....
Defender 90 HT............Pangea Green
BMW X3 Msport............Carbon Black
Mini Electric................Grey. (wow!)
MGB Roadster……..........Vermillion
Honda Benly CD200....Maroon ------------- Chausson 98.........7.5m of fun
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JimG



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Handed the vehicle back and got a refund. It had trouble written all over it! Onwards and upwards! Hope the next one is a bit better. Thanks for all the responses! Thumbs Up
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JPE



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red
What mileage was it out of interest?
Post #821118 24th Mar 2020 10:37pm
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JimG



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Around 98000 miles.
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Morepower



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New Zealand 
They do say 100000 miles is usually time for a new chain...

Regards

Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...

2013 Bowler 110 (Sold)
2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold)
Post #821152 25th Mar 2020 8:31am
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