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JimG



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2013 Defender PUMA 2.2
HI All, this is my first post and I am just wondering can you help me. I just bough a defender on yesterday and after bringing it home it has failed to start. The key fob seems to work and I have changed the battery now just in case. The engine turns over but will not start. checked relays under the seat and checked the fuses. wiring also seems to be ok. I also notice that with the bonet open i can hear a faint whistle/alarm with the key in.

Jim Big Cry
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rockster57



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Any fuel in the tank Jim?

Did you drive it home or was it transported?

Did it start up ok for you before you did the deal?

Separate immobiliserf fob?

Have you tried both LR fobs?
Post #817754 1st Mar 2020 7:00pm
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JPE



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That must be so massively frustrating.

Have you tried charging the battery?

I think there's a procedure in the handbook to follow when changing fob batteries; might be worth checking those instructions.

(The inertia switch might be worth checking given the symptoms but I would have thought unlikely to be that unless its had a bump.)
Post #817766 1st Mar 2020 7:31pm
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Julie



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Re: 2013 Defender PUMA 2.2
JimG wrote:
I also notice that with the bonet open i can hear a faint whistle/alarm with the key in.


The faint whistle may be the EGR ... Seems more like a problem related to starting a cold engine : are the glow plugs clean ?

You could monitor the fuel pressure in the common rail, if the high pressure had been damaged ...

it's so frustrating anyway
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custom90



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Check the grounds are good, and battery voltage is acceptable. (Especially battery negative to Gearbox / Transfer box.)
Disconnect the battery, and touch the two DISCONNECTED terminals together.
Then reconnect.
(Negative should be removed first when disconnecting and fitted last when reconnecting.)

Follow the manual for details of the BBUS before you disconnect the battery if fitted.

Once connected all back up, press the fob lock or unlock multiple times rapidly until the red dash led flashes rapidly on the dash and then everything is back to normal.
You may want to check Relays are secure in the Seatbox too.

Beyond this further investigation might be required. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. β›½οΈπŸ›’οΈπŸ‘¨β€πŸ”§πŸ§°βš™οΈ RED, WHITE & BOOST! πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
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JimG



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Hi, yep I have charged the main battery and it was filled with fuel. The alarm seems to be working ok. I.e., Doors lock and unlock the lights on the dash seem to do what they are supposed to. My gut is telling me it’s a fuel issue. I bled the fuel filter in the wheel arch a little but the fuel seems clean. I am stumpted.
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JimG



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Hi Steve I will try that in the morning.
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JimG



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Ok so i checked the fuel filter in the wheel arch and found the top of it covered in diesel impregnated dirt. The outer sheild also shows signs of diesel as if it has been escaping from one or more of the pipes at the top. Is this normal or is it a sign that air has possibly got into the system?
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G4UJS



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are the glow plugs working?
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Marks Landy



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Can you nip the filter up a bit more?

Is it leaking when you turn the ignition key to position 2 for 10 seconds?
Post #817880 2nd Mar 2020 12:24pm
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ickle



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Filter & housing should be dry. Check filter is fully tight - Caterham will be along in a minute to further explain Rolling with laughter

Not 100% sure on 2.2 but 2.4 has no pump in the tank and if there's a leak in the system its easier to suck air in rather than diesel from the tank. You will need a priming bulb and associated pipes to bleed it properly.
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andydef90



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you mention a whistle is the car alarm working ok have you tried alarming and disarming it also have you two sets of keys if you have try both sets . can you contact the seller
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JimG



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Ok the vehicle has been picked up on a low loader and taken to a specialist mechanic. I will let you know the outcome when I know more. Thanks everyone. πŸ‘
Post #817891 2nd Mar 2020 1:43pm
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G4UJS



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Good Luck, I feel for you, but you will grow to love it!!!

Welcome to Defender ownership!

Regards

Rob
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G4UJS



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Hi Jim,

Have they sorted it for you?

Cheers

Rob
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