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AndrewS



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Badger110 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
None of those will take a cherry picker etc though. They are not equivalent to a Defender.


Western Power Distribution have been replacing their Defenders


No wrong. They did but then.....
They are now refurbing old Defenders and removing said jap pickups. They have found that the 'linesmen' are a lot more productive in Defenders, as they can get to the problems and get them sorted quicker.
They are on a time penalty to get outages repaired in a certain time or they get fined.
Censored jap pickup stuck in gate waiting for big kit to recover and then fix lines or send in a Defender and get the job done Thumbs Up 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #752894 21st Jan 2019 9:31pm
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cozz



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couple of months ago the lads who turned up had 4 toyota hilux with custom rear canopys


but i still see defenders around too
Post #752948 21st Jan 2019 10:56pm
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Badger110



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That as may be, but i see a depot of Jap Pick up cherry pickers and no Defenders anymore as they sold the stock off.

I haven't seen any refurbed defenders returning unfortunately.
Post #752950 21st Jan 2019 11:00pm
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Ramajama



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AndrewS wrote:
Ramajama wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
Badger110 wrote:
uot;] when a disco will do the same job and it'll do it in more comfort in these modern times?

Agreed if you are talking about the D3/4 but disagree if you are discussing the D5


How exactly can you disagree about the D5?


Simple I have owned one for the last 19 months. I've put it through a proper workout. It's no where near the robust vehicle the D3/4 was. I have just sold it. Don't get me wrong it's a great car it's simply not a work horse.

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2003 Land Rover Discovery II HSE 7 (Still deciding on its role)
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Post #753011 22nd Jan 2019 3:41am
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22900013A



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AndrewS wrote:
Badger110 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
None of those will take a cherry picker etc though. They are not equivalent to a Defender.


Western Power Distribution have been replacing their Defenders


No wrong. They did but then.....
They are now refurbing old Defenders and removing said jap pickups. They have found that the 'linesmen' are a lot more productive in Defenders, as they can get to the problems and get them sorted quicker.
They are on a time penalty to get outages repaired in a certain time or they get fined.
Censored jap pickup stuck in gate waiting for big kit to recover and then fix lines or send in a Defender and get the job done Thumbs Up


Defenders are being kept for a ten year working life, irrespective of mileage. Then inspected for condition and kept on until no longer viable. There is no refurb scheme I'm aware of. The Defenders are no better in terms of getting to the job, the advantage is they can carry a lot more kit as they have higher axle gross weights. 2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton
1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker
1969 IIA 1-Ton
1966 IIA 88"
Post #753020 22nd Jan 2019 8:31am
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AndrewS



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I know of two Defenders at our local depo that have been taken off the road refurbished and are now back on site. A very good friend of mine who is hot glove (i think thats the term) Had a Defender then a Ranger when the Defender got to replacement age, hes now back in his old refurbed Defender and being a lot more productive than he was in the Ranger. The Ranger is now long gone. He said that the Ranger gould just not get to the places required which resulted in lots of walking. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
Post #753124 22nd Jan 2019 4:27pm
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mikelike



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Re the Disco 5 , I remember reading somewhere that Jerry Mcgovern found the Discovery 3 design to be very divisive , well I believe he has bettered this with the Disco 5 , seems to be universally disliked and for the investment must be considered to be a sales flop .

In our small market ,it is severely overpriced which is hindering sales as well , simply put, bang for the buck people that maybe interested walk out of the showroom with a Range Rover sport . Rear seat comfort and design in this price range is appalling !

Due to the ever increasing murricanisation of the world , pick up trucks is where it is at .

Our Market of NZ has the Ranger as the biggest selling vehicle followed by the Hi Lux , Australia the other way round .

These vehicles offer consumers great versatility although I tend to see them as compromise vehicles .
They are not the best cars , not the best pick ups or not the best 4x4 , but they are selling .

The new Defender must come in a very capable pick up option for it to be relevant globally .
Improve on the old Defender that set the standard in towing terms for years and offer genuine utility .

If this can not be achieved I am afraid it will be another insignificant Suv in a sea of Suvs ,

Much like the Discovery 5 !! Embarassed
Post #753173 22nd Jan 2019 7:52pm
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Badger110



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The new Defender must come in a very capable pick up option for it to be relevant globally .
Improve on the old Defender that set the standard in towing terms for years and offer genuine utility .


I agree. The pick up is built upon the chassis of the Series ie ladder and springs.

Simple and effective.
Post #753241 22nd Jan 2019 11:47pm
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Supacat



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If you really want to improve on towing then the obvious answer is go all electric - both the Rivian & Tesla offers have huge towing capacities far above current defender limits.
Post #753301 23rd Jan 2019 10:47am
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flydive



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diduan wrote:
For me the d5 lacks everything you need for offroading. I am done only by loocking on the tire options : 255/55/R20 and 21".


You mean my old RRS cannot go off-road?
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Timo K



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Driving around an offroad course sure... Serious long distance off-piste driving? Better bring a trailer of spare wheels...
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flydive



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Well I thought the 275/65-18 STT would have been ok for off piste driving
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diduan



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If RRS or D5 is your car for offroading, go for it. I just say, that these vehicles are no good for my jobs. Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
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Post #753754 24th Jan 2019 10:04pm
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flydive



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Well, I could say exactly the same about your or my Defender (or RRS)Wink Mr. Green
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Nidge



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Interesting thoughts from Andrew SPW

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