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Tim in Scotland



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RDR wrote:
@tim in scotland

interesting about the engine, i'm hoping my dealers demo is the d240 I've had v6/8s for the last 20 years so quite wary of the prospect of having to drop to a 4 pot. Especially as i tow regularly. I have been talking to the dealer about an X predominantly to get the bigger engine but i the bang for buck on the X is really not stacking up for me i just want a decent engine.


RDR, you might be better to wait a little longer for the straight 6 diesel to come along if you tow so much. The two 2 litre diesels archive max 430 No of torques at amazingly low RPM (1400) compared to the 3.0 Ltd petrol ‘s 500Nm at 2000.
I dread to think what the fuel consumption of both engines will be like when heavy towing......... might find you are using low box quite a lot with the 2.0ltr engines though. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Naks wrote:
https://youtu.be/Q8sQZuAczrg



he's added auto-translation to the clip, so now there is more context.

the first Defender went up without any issues, it's just the white 110 that struggled. --
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Post #835072 3rd Jun 2020 11:12pm
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zilch



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the spotter/guide did not seem to be much help Laughing especially waving him forward so he could stove the front in
on the rock Rolling with laughter yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #835086 4th Jun 2020 5:01am
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Just took one for a good test drive at my dealer this morning. Feels even larger than a FFRR, very comfortable and roomy passenger area. Have the impression that the seating position is even higher than the old Defender, and there is excellent visibility all round. Nice truck really, perfect finish there at that new Nitra plant. Really impressed with the Slovakia workmanship. I drove the 2.0 liter diesel 249HP today. Will make another test drive with the 3.0 liter gasoline version later. While this 2.0 liter diesel has plenty power, I think a 3.0 liter is more natural for a large beast like this. The only negative to me is the design of the interior door trims with those visible (fake?) screws. That seems a bit of a tacky design feature for a luxury truck like this, hope they quickly will clean that up. I will never replace the SVX, that one is a keeper, but who knows, in a few years time the Mrs. car may come up for replacement. Overall, after all the negative I read on here, this was a pleasant surprise.
Eric


Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw

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Post #835107 4th Jun 2020 9:21am
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Grenadier



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
zilch wrote:
the spotter/guide did not seem to be much help Laughing especially waving him forward so he could stove the front in
on the rock Rolling with laughter


It was actually quite a tortuous watch. No one really seemed to know what they were doing, drivers or guides. And I didn’t understand a word to boot. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Post #835114 4th Jun 2020 9:50am
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Naks



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It's in Hebrew, since the video was made in Israel.

The uploader kindly translated in English, at my request. You can enable this on YouTube by clicking on the settings cog, and then choosing translation > English. Thumbs Up --
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Post #835119 4th Jun 2020 10:19am
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Inigo



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
New article, I think.

https://gearpatrol.com/2020/05/31/land-rover-design-boss/#

I'm kind of ambivalent about the New Defender, but each time I read an article that quotes Gerry, I go off it a bit more. "Desirative consequence". I can only assume he is now making up phrases deliberately to troll people.
Post #835122 4th Jun 2020 10:28am
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J77



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Lots of fancy words in that article that I have no clue what they mean! Maybe it’s just me.
Post #835127 4th Jun 2020 11:11am
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Tim in Scotland



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Judging by the huge choice of 1st Edition models that I have been given to choose from, all with two weeks delivery from dealers stock it would appear that either it isn’t selling well Or there are a lot of cancelled orders resulting from employment doubts due to C-19 pandemic................ Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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J77



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Or for £10k more than a factory First Edition you can have the Chelsea Truck Co. First Edition.

The paint work don’t look to good, maybe just the photos. Either way it’s not for me.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...fender-110
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Tim in Scotland



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Errrrrr, no thanks These wheels look like photoshopped Mini wheels......... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Not the greatest photos to display your wares with.
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tango90



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The brand did have a very strong engineering background. And one of the things I was very focused on was, how can we put design at the core of this.


That's the problem with McGovern its all about show and no substance which is the polar opposite to what Land Rover was founded on.
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J77



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One of the Defenders from that Youtube video, apparently it’s LR Israels official launch.



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BD1



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Inigo wrote:
New article, I think.

https://gearpatrol.com/2020/05/31/land-rover-design-boss/#

I'm kind of ambivalent about the New Defender, but each time I read an article that quotes Gerry, I go off it a bit more. "Desirative consequence". I can only assume he is now making up phrases deliberately to troll people.


Just read the article.....what a pompous ass.
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