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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Australia 
Grenadier wrote:
despite its pedigree and despite its clear abilities. I cannot see anyone beyond the sort of person who might have otherwise considered a RR/RRS/RRV buying one. It'll be bought by young, wealthy Instagram urbanites, and perhaps owners of prestige shooting estates, ski chalets, yachts etc. And perhaps it'll be bought by some owners of Discos and RRs who have a pretence to being Bear Grylls.


Shocked You seem to have a very low opinion of people who drive other Land Rover models Grenadier Laughing yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Australia 
Naks wrote:
Although I'm starting to re-think its applicability to overlanding, as my RRS could the same in much more comfort & safety.


a number of my fellow RRS/D4 owners and I have done overland excursions across Australia such as the Kimberleys,
Cape York, etc, anything between a 6-10K round trip, and the D4's/RRS have done it with
ease, with little or no modifications, apart from maybe LLAMs lift kits, a decent set of off road tyres..

Like you, i think the old Defender is a classic and a great vehicle, but i am more comfortable and safer in my RRS when
we head out.. oh and we take a fridge so we can keep food fresh, no need to go into bear grylls mode and start hunting
the local wildlife for bush meat Whistle Laughing yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #821736 28th Mar 2020 4:39am
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Francisr



Member Since: 27 Mar 2020
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France 
Francisr wrote:
I am very interested to buy a new 90 or 110, however the Carbon Tax on these vehicles would be around £15K (€20k) in France, hence I will wait for a PHEV hybrid version. But I don't know when it will be available and wondering what will be the specs.
Thank you


So, nobody knows if there will be a PHEV Hybrid version and when?
Post #821776 28th Mar 2020 12:32pm
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J77



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Scotland 
There’s definitely going to be a PHEV but it will be either the end of this year or start of next year before it’s launched.
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
I think definitely and JLR's plans for the Defender don't really go hand in hand; and that was before the current world was turned upside down.

Will there be the demand, money for final development (assuming initial work has already been done); or will they just wait until they move to the MLA platform and there's no additional model specific costs?
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J77



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Perhaps

I don’t fancy the cost of a Defender EV or PHEV.
Post #821803 28th Mar 2020 4:23pm
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
^ yep, especially when it's out of service plan/warranty! --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #821806 28th Mar 2020 4:59pm
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LandymanStefan



Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I currently have a 90 and the next upgrade for me in terms of more tech, slightly better comfort and more spacce that i would still off road in the alps is this.

I imagine much better build quality and reliability too. I just hope the new one keeps pushing the prices down.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ad...dal=photos
Post #821853 28th Mar 2020 7:37pm
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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Ireland 
It is like some one setting you up on a blind date. You are told how wonderful the unknown party is. You are given lots of info to whet your appetite and to get you in the right frame of mind for the initial meeting. Your expectations are high...Wonder what the first meeting will be like? Whistle 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #821893 28th Mar 2020 10:38pm
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
 --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2595

South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Reviews from Car & Driver and Flat-Out Magazine:



 --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #821938 29th Mar 2020 8:39am
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Naks



Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2595

South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
?t=741 --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
Post #821953 29th Mar 2020 9:24am
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zilch



Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
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Australia 
not so much about the new Defender, but more about why its now time for something new.
Some chats with some long standing LR owners and overrlanders such as the Ives brothers etc.

Over 2:15 long.. so if you cannot abide any criticism of the old Defender,even from a harden fan,
then do not bother hitting the link..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi7yyMaS3K...-wGQB0AxPI yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport
Post #821959 29th Mar 2020 9:45am
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RDR



Member Since: 27 Apr 2018
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United Kingdom 
Thats cheating not using the OEM scissor jack Laughing







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 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV
D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold
D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold
D4 MY12 HSE - Gone
D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten
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familymad



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Location: Bucks
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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Is it just me or do those wheel nuts look less than masculine 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
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