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Supacat



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LR90XS2011 wrote:
do BMW still have an engine plant at Hams Hall?


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"BMW has built petrol engines at its Hams Hall plant in Coleshill for use in several factories around the world since 2001.

A BMW spokesman said the decision has not resulted in a cut to the total number of engines being made at Hams Hall – which stood at 377,000 in 2018 – as production for engines to be used in the US has increased."
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/09/bmw-has...to-brexit/

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Supacat wrote:
oneten110 wrote:

Fitted with a BMW engine, how is that British?


Not just any BMW engine, perhaps a bespoke spec one?

"According to sources in the industry, INEOS is quite peculiar about the sort of work these BMW engines will have to perform. They should have worldwide homologation and be able to run using low-quality fuels in places where that’s the only choice you get. Therefore, BMW has apparently set aside a budget to adapt and maybe even develop new engines for INEOS alone, that would perform the way they’re expected to. The Germans foresee the delivery of a ‘high-range five-digit number of engines.’"
https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/03/19/bmw-ann...utomotive/


IIRC Ineos are buying stock 3 litre straight 6 twin turbos. They will be detuned so as not to outdo BM's own cars.

So most likely B57, B58 etc. I think they are made in Austria. WARNING.
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I thought I'd seen mention of straight 6 engines, but looking back I can't see any official reference to anything other than "BMW’s TwinPower Turbo petrol and diesel engines", which in straight 6 guise would be the B58 with a single twin-scroll turbo.

The TwinPower range is modular, so there's a choice of 3-cylinder (B38), 4-cylinder (B48) and 6-cylinder (B58).

All the official announcements also talk of a "powertrain technology partnership", which sounds like it could include more than just the engine.

If it's the B58 then it seems to be well liked:

Yet Another Spectacular 6-Cyl. Turbo from BMW
https://www.wardsauto.com/10-best-engines-...-turbo-bmw

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First glimpse of grenadier Coventry live? Facebook. Vid .

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This is the most recent video on Facebook from Ineos Grenadier - dated 20/12/2019. Supacat posted the link back then.

https://www.facebook.com/INEOSGrenadier/videos/3042587489102182/

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chinney wrote:
First glimpse of grenadier Coventry live? Facebook. Vid .

Mate that's a bus Whistle

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https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/cov...r-17394830

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Bluest wrote:
Shocked Link please! I can't see it.


"Some show the underneath of the vehicle as it tackles off-road terrain but there is also a brief shot of three Grenadiers on the move."


https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-...r-17505073

Not convinced Confused

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Supacat wrote:
I thought I'd seen mention of straight 6 engines, but looking back I can't see any official reference to anything other than "BMW’s TwinPower Turbo petrol and diesel engines", which in straight 6 guise would be the B58 with a single twin-scroll turbo.

The TwinPower range is modular, so there's a choice of 3-cylinder (B38), 4-cylinder (B48) and 6-cylinder (B58).

All the official announcements also talk of a "powertrain technology partnership", which sounds like it could include more than just the engine.

If it's the B58 then it seems to be well liked:

Yet Another Spectacular 6-Cyl. Turbo from BMW
https://www.wardsauto.com/10-best-engines-...-turbo-bmw


In a Defender the BMW straight 6 diesel is stunning so it could be a good move. Well at least until EV takes over the world. WARNING.
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Supacat wrote:
Bluest wrote:
Shocked Link please! I can't see it.


"Some show the underneath of the vehicle as it tackles off-road terrain but there is also a brief shot of three Grenadiers on the move."


https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-...r-17505073

Not convinced Confused


Coventry live is getting a bit ahead of themselves, I don’t think any of those are Grenadier, just various old Landys in mud. As far as I can tell, the only public image of anything real is the chassis testing mule with a Ford Endeavour body balanced on top.



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Supercat? did you see this _?_

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Supacat wrote:
I thought I'd seen mention of straight 6 engines, but looking back I can't see any official reference to anything other than "BMW’s TwinPower Turbo petrol and diesel engines", which in straight 6 guise would be the B58 with a single twin-scroll turbo.

The TwinPower range is modular, so there's a choice of 3-cylinder (B38), 4-cylinder (B48) and 6-cylinder (B58).

All the official announcements also talk of a "powertrain technology partnership", which sounds like it could include more than just the engine.

If it's the B58 then it seems to be well liked:

Yet Another Spectacular 6-Cyl. Turbo from BMW
https://www.wardsauto.com/10-best-engines-...-turbo-bmw


The BMW B58 motor is spot on, been running them since they came out and would love to see one in a proper 4x4.

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Not if it's the identical engine, but nice review of a version of it here:



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That’s the B58 engine I was referring too, they will no doubt change the power and tourqe to suit the dynamics of a off road type vehicle, more bottom end👍

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