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RRUK
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For us punters, I was told dealer wont have a car till January Launches (invite only events) and then cars to test drive from March.

If you order a car and place a deposit, because they cannot let you drive one till they are delivered pretty much, you can get a full refund on monies paid and walk away.

So for the time being I'm keeping my hat in the ring. 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

26th Sep 2019 2:45pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3021

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

RRUK wrote:
This thread has ground to a halt.

Now that it has been revealed it seems all opinions have stopped!

Unfortunately the reveal just confirmed all my fears.

26th Sep 2019 8:16pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
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Same here, why so predictable as well.

That's what set the Puma and its previous generations apart from the rest and was that it wasn't a soft roader. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨‍🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧

26th Sep 2019 8:37pm

Waldorf

Member Since: 13 Aug 2019
Location: Aalter
Posts: 12

2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Stornoway Grey

I went to see the new Defender yesterday and... I really like it. I will buy one, to replace my Discovery 4. And I will also keep my original Defenders.

27th Sep 2019 8:48am

lohr500

Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1285

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Hi Waldorf,
Was there as much room in the back of the new Defender as the D4?
Did the one you look at have the 3rd row of seats?
My concern over the new 110 as a replacement for D4 is a reduction in load/passenger space.

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27th Sep 2019 9:00am

RRUK
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I think that's quite a telling statement.

So, I have a D3 for my off roading, going shooting etc. Can I see me using the new Defender for that type of work? I know it's capable and more, however the D3 gets a battering, cattle rub up against it, and as it's not worth £60K and doesn't have a £3k satin wrap on it, I am not 100% precious about it.

If I used the new Defender for this, each time it got a dent the wrap would have to come off (I have heard a few horror stories from a friend who owns a body shop). The repair bills would be staggering.

I have a 110 Wolf because I still love the looks, basic-ness and ruggedness and I don't have to be precious at all.

So, the new Defender sort of fits in but as another vehicle, not a replacement.

Does it replace my Range Rover Sport Supercharged. NO, unless I had the X with 400bhp but even then, its not a V8!! 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

27th Sep 2019 9:01am

RRUK
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lohr500 wrote:
Hi Waldorf,
Was there as much room in the back of the new Defender as the D4?
Did the one you look at have the 3rd row of seats?
My concern over the new 110 as a replacement for D4 is a reduction in load/passenger space.

I didn't think the boot of the 110 was as big as the D3 I have 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

27th Sep 2019 9:01am

RRUK
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Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 2014

SO I had an email from Land Rover late last night inviting me to preview the new Defender at Halewood or Solihull.

By the time I clicked on the link they were fully booked.

Glad I went to Frankfurt to see it! 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

27th Sep 2019 9:03am

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 800

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

RRUK wrote:
So, I have a D3 for my off roading, going shooting etc. Can I see me using the new Defender for that type of work? I know it's capable and more, however the D3 gets a battering, cattle rub up against it, and as it's not worth £60K and doesn't have a £3k satin wrap on it, I am not 100% precious about it.

But surely you didn't put the D3 to that use when brand new, even if it wasn't a £60K spec?
I'm assuming once the new Defender is 10/15 years old, it will be at least as suitable as a 10/15 yo Disco.

27th Sep 2019 9:47am

Waldorf

Member Since: 13 Aug 2019
Location: Aalter
Posts: 12

lohr500 wrote:
Hi Waldorf,
Was there as much room in the back of the new Defender as the D4?
Did the one you look at have the 3rd row of seats?
My concern over the new 110 as a replacement for D4 is a reduction in load/passenger space.

No, the new Defender is not as spacious as the D4. D4 has 7 real seats, the new Defender only has 5 + 2 seating arrangement. The third row seats are only for children or emergency use, much like the Range Rover Sport. To me the D4 was the most practical car ever, with its huge boot. On the plus side: second row seating is very comfortable, with lots of leg room.

27th Sep 2019 10:04am

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 800

Is the yet to be released '130' going to have a 7-seat configuration?

27th Sep 2019 10:08am

RRUK
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Member Since: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 2014

Ads90 wrote:
RRUK wrote:
So, I have a D3 for my off roading, going shooting etc. Can I see me using the new Defender for that type of work? I know it's capable and more, however the D3 gets a battering, cattle rub up against it, and as it's not worth £60K and doesn't have a £3k satin wrap on it, I am not 100% precious about it.

But surely you didn't put the D3 to that use when brand new, even if it wasn't a £60K spec?
I'm assuming once the new Defender is 10/15 years old, it will be at least as suitable as a 10/15 yo Disco.

I didn't buy it new, it was already 8 years old. 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

27th Sep 2019 11:25am

RRUK
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Location: Leicestershire
Posts: 2014

Ads90 wrote:
Is the yet to be released '130' going to have a 7-seat configuration?

All I have heard is that the 130 is being pegged as the Expedition variant 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol

27th Sep 2019 11:26am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

130 will get the 8 seat option I believe.

27th Sep 2019 11:35am

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3021

From the blurb the 130 sounds more like a people carrier.

27th Sep 2019 12:17pm

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