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Supacat



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Nice article - thanks for posting.

Shows that where there's a will, relatively small volume production can still take place at what I presume is still a profit.
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Grenadier wrote:
In the spirit of 21stC snowflakeism, I’ve decided to follow the BBC’s lead and similarly as they call Islamic State “so-called Islamic State”, I’m going to now refer to this as the “so-called Defender”. Whistle

OT. I’ve never been sure who, when or why the BBC started referring to IS as ‘so-called’. That’s what they named themselves, whether or not there is an actual Islamic Caliphate recognised by the UN. There’s no ‘so-called’ about it. No different to McDonald’s, Barclays or Grenadier....just a thought.


David Cameron told the BBC to stop using the name Islamic State as he believed it gave them legitimacy. Presumably the Beeb came to an agreement and started using 'so called...'

I prefer the term Daesh used by both Arab and our European nations as it is known to really p them off.

So called Defender is a good shout.
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From what I read, I thought it was the leaders of UK Muslims who objected to their faith being linked to a bunch of overseas thugs and Satanists.

I think they actually asked for them to be labelled "so called" because it did not reflect their faith or their Koran.

I found that encouraging.
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Zed wrote:


David Cameron told the BBC to stop using the name Islamic State as he believed it gave them legitimacy. Presumably the Beeb came to an agreement and started using 'so called...'

I prefer the term Daesh used by both Arab and our European nations as it is known to really p them off.

So called Defender is a good shout.


Land Rover Daeshfender? 

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Is it true that Land Rover Monthly had to suppress the September edition because it featured the new Defender? As always with magazines the September issue would have come out in August and that would have pre-emptied LRs big release. Peter
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Zed



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NoDo$h wrote:
Zed wrote:


David Cameron told the BBC to stop using the name Islamic State as he believed it gave them legitimacy. Presumably the Beeb came to an agreement and started using 'so called...'

I prefer the term Daesh used by both Arab and our European nations as it is known to really p them off.

So called Defender is a good shout.


Land Rover Daeshfender?


We have a winner!
Post #790242 3rd Sep 2019 12:26pm
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Brucemknx wrote:
Hey McFly, I was just about to watch the video you linked. Then it got deleted as a duplicate post. Can't find the original, or on a youtube search. Can you link me to the original? Talented photoshoppers are awesome to watch.


Brucemknx - here is the photo and link to the video. I was impressed by what “ the sketch monkey” did in under 15 minutes with the “Bond” pic.. I subsequently noticed that LRinky had posted a photo back on page 79 to the same, so that’s why I deleted. I don’t think he had the link to the video though:



Click image to enlarge

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Naks, what they didn’t tell him was that once he’d seen it he wouldn’t be allowed out of the factory until September 11th Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Naks



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Naks, what they didn’t tell him was that once he’d seen it he wouldn’t be allowed out of the factory until September 11th


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Zed wrote:
NoDo$h wrote:
Zed wrote:


David Cameron told the BBC to stop using the name Islamic State as he believed it gave them legitimacy. Presumably the Beeb came to an agreement and started using 'so called...'

I prefer the term Daesh used by both Arab and our European nations as it is known to really p them off.

So called Defender is a good shout.


Land Rover Daeshfender?


We have a winner!


Ehm, no. It's simply got to be called the 'Land Rover Obranca'. Google translate it... ---
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Mcfly1985 wrote:
Brucemknx wrote:
Hey McFly, I was just about to watch the video you linked. Then it got deleted as a duplicate post. Can't find the original, or on a youtube search. Can you link me to the original? Talented photoshoppers are awesome to watch.


Brucemknx - here is the photo and link to the video. I was impressed by what “ the sketch monkey” did in under 15 minutes with the “Bond” pic.. I subsequently noticed that LRinky had posted a photo back on page 79 to the same, so that’s why I deleted. I don’t think he had the link to the video though:



Click image to enlarge



Thanks! Talented graphic designer.
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Supacat



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blackrangie wrote:


The pedestrian safety is in fact one of jeeps biggest problems

Jeep 50% VRU fail.


You have conflated the physical tests and the software add ons. Software add ons are not relevant when talking frontal design.

The figures I have quoted above are for the physical tests and show the scores are not that far apart, D5=25.6 and Wrangler=23.9. In fact, in one of the tests the Wrangler actually bests the D5.

blackrangie wrote:

D5 is 5 star, that means it passes everything including the pedestrian safety, the jeep doesnt, not by a long shot.

Fleet buyers and the general public demand five star safety these days so that is the standard for a worldwide selling car.

The point was LR needed something that would pass safety tests not fail them all over the world, unlike the current defender and jeep.


Interesting to note that Jeep didn't take your advice on needing 5 stars "for a worldwide selling car" and seem to be making the numbers JLR can only dream of...

2018 was Jeep's best sales year on record and that was down in part to it's best selling model and making record sales of...Wranglers - 240,032 of them.
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SUV...
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