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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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And we bought them 228 winter tyres in 2014...
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31st Jul 2020 11:50am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Been selling like hot cakes: "More than 400 Land Rover Discoverys have been sold to support police forces across Europe in the last 12 months. Some of the vehicles ordered by Germany, Czech Republic, Poland and Bulgaria will be used as part of the European Union’s Frontex Border and Coast Guard Agency. These vehicles are tasked with allowing authorities to control the borders of 26 countries in the European Schengen region." https://teamtalk.jaguarlandrover.com/news/...-and-order 
The German ones are quite snazzy:
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31st Jul 2020 11:58am |
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| Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735
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But some of the reason for that will be because no one was able to see a Defender in the flesh, no one was able to test drive one and there is a big waiting time to get one. Plus loads of potential Defender buyers (unlike us geeks) have no idea yet that there is such a think out there to buy until they start seeing them on the road and then deciding ‘wow I want one of those’.’ All those reasons combined will have contributed to slow and low sales figures at this early stage Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras! |
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31st Jul 2020 3:58pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Have JLR been making up salary to the 100% level. Just reading that "FCA and GM salaried employees are getting their full paychecks". https://jalopnik.com/the-auto-industry-has...1844570290 |
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31st Jul 2020 4:50pm |
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We were chatting about sales and lack of build at CB, they are still on furlough at the moment and looking to return October. Plenty of stories going round with plant but not allowed to say anything. 
| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3245 
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@ supacat
The Italian ones look nice Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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31st Jul 2020 4:51pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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These figures are for the 1st real quarter of deliveries. Initial sales into these markets weren't all speculative orders off dealers lots, some must have been made up of orders taken since orders were open. It's this pick up that's being commented on against the hype coming out of JLR, and for comparison other new models 1st quarter sales, under the same conditions you have mentioned, are referenced. New Defender has not compared well.
Is that really true? JLR's social media team would certainly disagree with you & for once I think they have it right. They certainly haven't skimped on the money spent ~ Namibia, Red Cross, etc. Most of my relatives have mentioned it to me, without me bringing it up first.
Visibility of the product is the only reason I can see in your argument ~ and it's a good reason, but it's almost a Catch 22 for JLR, certainly a bit of a circular argument, if to sell bigger numbers, first they have to sell more to get visibility up. |
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31st Jul 2020 5:19pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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There's something quite perverse about it, isn't there? Last edited by Supacat on 16th Oct 2020 8:56am. Edited 2 times in total |
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31st Jul 2020 5:21pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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What on earth is that bump on the bonnet of those Italian Disco5’s? Gucci styling? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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31st Jul 2020 5:22pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Did they get Kahn to do the mods? What is that on the bonnet? |
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31st Jul 2020 5:24pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3245
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It hides the mesh guard for the windscreen.
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31st Jul 2020 5:36pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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 I see now
Click image to enlarge Looks like they have a nice museum Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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31st Jul 2020 5:41pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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It was always great to call in the big Italian and Spanish ports and Defender spot a few years ago as not only did the mooring teams use Defenders tricked up to handle very heavy mooring lines, the Customs and Coastguards in both countries used them. I knew some of the mooring team foremen well and asked where the Defenders went to. Mostly they were TD5’s and early Pumas but the salty sea air claimed too many chassis. But there was a good side, many of the mooring teams were able to buy the vehicles cheaply and rebuild them. One downside from the Nissan Navarra pick-ups that seemed to replace the Defenders was in the Spanish ports the mooring teams had lost several Nissans to the dock bottom, pulled off the berth by the ships moving unexpectedly while mooring lines were still being dragged along the quay by the pick-up. In 20 years with Defenders they never lost one to the seabed! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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31st Jul 2020 6:00pm |
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| Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735
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It’s a bloody disgrace!!! All our services should be forced to but British where ever possible. All government Staff and Royals Should have to too. I saw Prince William driving an Audi SUV the other day in the papers and Prince Harry in a Audi Estate! It’s an outrage. They should be ashamed of themselves Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras! |
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31st Jul 2020 7:31pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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New defender and D5 count as British? New Defender is only the 2nd foreign assembled car I’ve bought in 30 years, the other one was my Mini Countryman PHEV, assembled in the Netherlands and now for 2021MY comes with the same stylised Union Flag tail light lenses as the U.K. assembled Mini’s Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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31st Jul 2020 7:38pm |
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