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| Digger2000 Member Since: 19 Sep 2020 Location: Newcastle Posts: 590   
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https://instagram.com/stories/expeditionro...3rz2mhc29u
Definitely need 18’s |
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20th Oct 2020 9:38am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 567
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Dropped the D5 off at the dealers today to have the load space re-trimmed got a 70 plate 110 as a loaner seems they have registered their 4pots as loaners - wonder if they are struggling to sell them, gets them off the new sales inventory I guess. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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20th Oct 2020 12:43pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Not very elegant and battle damaged alloys look to be entirely down to the traction control strategy.  |
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20th Oct 2020 12:54pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586  
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The Land Rover Defender Is the 2021 MotorTrend SUV of the Year: https://www.motortrend.com/news/land-rover...-the-year/
"...Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner To conclude, summarize, and even proselytize, the new Land Rover Defender bowled us over: the design, both inside and out; the wonderful synchronization of the stout engine and yeoman transmission; the exceptional ride quality; its ambient nature; the baked-in, go-anywhere-on-the-planet capability; and its amazing value. It's a heady and compelling mixture. Then there is the element that's not an official part of our six criteria but that I always lobby for: Winners should have some sort of X-factor, a secret sauce that reminds us why we chose to write about cars instead of refrigerators or computers. We love cars, trucks, and in this case SUVs. The Defender has these ineffable qualities in spades. The Defender received every first-place vote but one. See? It's special. Seabaugh accurately summarized our thoughts: "Ignoring emotion, how can the Land Rover Defender not be our winner? No other vehicle here hits our six criteria so squarely in the mouth." And as Mike Tyson said and as the SUV segment is about to discover, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Stellar work, Land Rover. We doff our pith helmets. ..."  Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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21st Oct 2020 8:26am |
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| AMBxx Member Since: 24 Jul 2016 Location: York Posts: 985 
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Amazing value? Are they sure? What were the alternatives?
Maybe that's what happens if you never have to pay for your vehicle. |
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21st Oct 2020 8:47am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Interesting, the video that has been posted previously, quotes it as having 5 stars for safety in Europe, but I didn't think it's been tested by Euro NCAP yet?
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21st Oct 2020 9:06am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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Maybe because the car is good value in the USA where they pay equivalent to what other makers are charging, what the market rates for similar cars is, not what the highest amount customer can be pressed to pay like they do in Europe Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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21st Oct 2020 9:59am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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The award is apparently a set of golden calipers, maybe JLR can give it to the QA team in Nitra to help check some of those panel gaps.
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21st Oct 2020 12:53pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1350 
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Ahh, that's what's inside... 
Click image to enlarge It's a bit too late to tell me now to post it back... 
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22nd Oct 2020 6:08pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3245 
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22nd Oct 2020 7:31pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750
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Now you’ve committed yourself to buying one - didn’t you read the small print before you dismantled it? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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22nd Oct 2020 7:33pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1350
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22nd Oct 2020 7:53pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2586
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another update on the TFL saga:
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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25th Oct 2020 6:51am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Don't know which part of the story is the worst:
Owned a new Defender for 2 weeks and so far it's spent 10 days at the dealer's; or Goes in with one problem, comes out with a different problem; or Returns to dealer with new set of problems, and 1st problem (which they didn't actually find a cause of) returns; or Even with JLR giving this way more attention than any ordinary owner would normally get ~ it's still not fixed. I think I'd be rolling back the 2 software updates before ordering a new "camera module". Is that even a thing that can be done? And then it's picked up on by other media: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-lan...50591.html |
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25th Oct 2020 8:12am |
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