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Anderzander



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What have people done to seal the two little holes that are exposed when the separator is removed ?
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Inigo



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Gaffer tape.
Short term solution, might have to come up with something more permanent.
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Davie L



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Ok thats breat, So the general thoughts are its worth doimg and certinally does help the engine breathe little easier.

Now how do i do it, Anyone got photographs etc so i can see how yous have done it?

Davie
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Supacat



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Here's the view from above:

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and looking backwards down the intake to the cyclone:

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From the 2nd photo, it's easy to see how it restricts the air flow, but then it is a deceptive angle.
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Cheshire110



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i don't get this?

surely theres no way that the plastic is more of a resistance to the air flow than the air filter itself?

or do you remove the air filter too? Cheers, David
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munch90



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I would be worried about the filter getting damp/wet after removal of the fan separator , your get a lot more restriction from a damp/wet filter

as said before ive seen filters sucked up towards the engine intake because filters have got damp

no leave filter in , there not a bad restriction
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Supacat



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Out of interest does anyone know what this refers to:

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is it the cyclone?

It's moulded into the inside of the the air box lid:


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Anderzander



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If moisture on the filter was a problem - then surely every car that doesn't have a cyclone would have a problem ? And loads of cars don't have them.
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K9F



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Not at all....Not everyones filter intake is on the exposed outside of a vehicle behind the front wheels though. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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munch90



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maybe the defender during testing did have a problem due to where the intake is

maybe its in case of if a lot of water went down intake may help prevent to much getting to engine

maybe its for heavy rain

very hard to say without testing

but a damp/wet filter will restrict air flow , like said I have seen it many times on all makes and even seen where the rubber seal has pulled out of the groove round the airbox allowing air passed the filter

the cyclone is there for a reason , you can see the marks on them in some the pics where the flow of air has left tracks on the blades
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Anderzander



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That's a fair point k9F - although I never remember it being an issue for any of the unfaired motorcycles I rode.

The received wisdom being that the water atomised with the air and passed through the the filter.

I guess I haven't made my mind up yet and not heard anything that has really convinced me.
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custom90



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I've done the airbox mod, no problems at all. There is a drain hole in the bottom anyway.

Moist air will get through regardless and rain it's self cannot get there without hitting the sides and if much does get in it'll acumulate and out the drain hole.

If you had a Snorkel and blocked up the drain hole too it might be an issue though but there is a rain separator built into those too.

It allows more air in quicker with out being a resistance in the system.

Saying it's there for a reason is not always true in every case.
LR don't have tuning as standard and it's better.
The standard exhaust has a hefty centre silencer but with out is better.
Then there are EGR's etc which are better shut off

The intake being on the side has no air ram effect so nothing can be driven in there as you don't drive sideways. Whistle Rolling with laughter

Dust is much more of an enemy and most certainly you don't want to run with out a filter in. Loads of rubbish gets in the bottom the airbox of which if it wasn't for the filer it'd be straight in.
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Anderzander



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Steve - what did you do with the holes exposed when you removed it ?
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custom90



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Do you mean the drain hole(s) ?
Post #419535 27th Apr 2015 7:03pm
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Anderzander



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No - the little holes that are exposed part way around the circumference of where the hydro clone locates.

I don't have any pics to hand Im afraid.
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