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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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Starter motor and why it failed
The starter motor on the Puma began to make a funny noise on kicking so I knew attention was due. Within two weeks it stopped working but did make a very good bag of nails sound. I could not believe how quickly it collapsed. I was actually awaiting a call back from the garage about getting the starter motor seen too. The reason for this sudden catastrophic failure was due to the following.
In 2018 the Puma went into a garage who I trusted and who had served me well. The clutch was changed so I can only surmise that the starter motor was removed during this process and refitted afterwards. Here lies the problem.
If you look at the diagram included in the link, you will see that there are two small dowels, TYT500020, that go on the bolts fixing the starter motor to the engine. These were not fitted when the starter motor was refitted. So over time the starter motor worked loose. The mechanic who is working on it now told me that the starter motor was loose to hand when he went to work on it. Anyway once the starter motor began making the funny noise I stopped using the Puma except locally. It is just as well as it failed completely when it was parked nose in to a wall in our yard.
https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/starter-...1181-c.asp 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #952476 13th May 2022 1:51pm
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X4SKP



Member Since: 29 Nov 2013
Location: Berkshire
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Hello supdfan

I went back and checked my Install...
LR OEM Starter Motor LR25840

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NYR500010

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You can just make out the stepped (counterbored) Holes to Locate onto 'Dowels' TYT500020

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My memory is that these 'Dowels' remained In Place on the Bell Housing aiding Location before
drawing in Starter Motor on Assembly

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I have No Loose photo's of them... SKIP
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It's a little hard to understand why anyone would remove the starter motor while changing a clutch, it's totally unnecessary and is both awkward and time-consuming.
Post #952484 13th May 2022 2:53pm
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spudfan



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When my starter motor was removed the mechanic said the dowels were not in place. Thank you for the photos and info. Thumbs Up 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #952485 13th May 2022 2:54pm
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spudfan



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blackwolf wrote:
It's a little hard to understand why anyone would remove the starter motor while changing a clutch, it's totally unnecessary and is both awkward and time-consuming.

That's the only reason the mechanic can think of as to why the dowels are not in place. I have had the vehicle from new. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #952486 13th May 2022 2:57pm
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jpboost



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either that or it left the factory without them?
Post #952491 13th May 2022 5:00pm
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