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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2155  
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Cat. The ONLY gearbox solution is to change for automatic, a common change these days with the TDci and one I was told to consider last time, when the Ashcroft shaft one went in. So the big dilemma?????
Yes the big ‘bang’ and loss of drive is somewhat reminiscent of transfer lever jumping outa gear and I did automatic go for it but No that ‘bang’ is well ingrained in my land rover ethic. Bollocs not again. I’d just put a full tank of diesel in as well oh! And new oil just last week.  |
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2nd Jan 2022 6:01pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264  
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well I can imagine. If I had the family with me I'm sure before dusk I'd be wear a necklace made of rope and swinging in the wind.
seriously though I think I'm on my 4th shaft
it is a painful and diabolical position to be in does raise the question of 'fit for purpose' and how we were even able to get into such a position....a bit like the front axle casing issue.
glad you've made it - and hopefully the tesla took a little of the pain away? |
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2nd Jan 2022 6:10pm |
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| keith Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2155
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 Your sympathy is indeed highly rewarding. Chat soon mate  |
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2nd Jan 2022 6:12pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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I wasn't thinking it a jumped out of gear. After almost 100k I found that my diff was occasionally going into diff lock with no immediate and obvious tell tales. I believe this has been a trait from new and over time caused excessive wear. The first obvious signs of this were the 1st adapter shaft going at approx 25k miles and at about the same time all the suspension bushes needed replacing 
from in the cabin you would think the diff was fully engaged in the open diff position. however crawling underneath and the diff lock tab can be further pushed into the open position. |
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2nd Jan 2022 6:15pm |
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| PerthDef90 Member Since: 20 Apr 2016 Location: Perth Posts: 1 
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Seeking advice on anyone who has fitted the "Entreq Mt82" upgrade and also views of this design vs the LOF MT82 option. The former design follows the original LR design with use of better material.
Links below illustrate both. Click "english translation" in bar for the Entreq links https://entreq.de/achsen-und-antrieb/ https://entreq.de/produkte/zwischenwelle-satz-td4/ https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...nder-tdci/ Thoughts & advice welcomed cheers |
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25th Feb 2022 11:55am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3996  
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7) It's sold by Entreq who have patchy record in customer service. It's a shame they don't have a UK distributor to take care of that side of it. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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25th Feb 2022 5:14pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16857 
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What happened to 6) ?
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25th Feb 2022 6:22pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3612 
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and its 1200 euros!!
my def was built about the same time as Caterhams and has had 2 standard shafts at fairly low mileages, original and replacement, both became clonky, I now have an Ashcroft one and so far so good. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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25th Feb 2022 6:34pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 618  
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Just bumping this thread up to the top.
What are peoples thoughts on the LOF extreme single piece shaft? Is it OTT for a daily driver? More vibrations through the vehicle? 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS. |
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11th Mar 2023 12:13pm |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 906 
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Had a LOF fitted since Oct 20 and still no issues so far.
You wouldn't even know it was fitted. Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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11th Mar 2023 2:49pm |
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| StressedComa Member Since: 23 Jul 2022 Location: Wakefield Posts: 54 
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I had one fitted November 22 as well as their Power Spec clutch to my daily and as mentioned, you wouldn’t know it was fitted.
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11th Mar 2023 3:37pm |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 618
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That’s good to know - thank you both.
It seems a no brainer to go for the shaft with the least amount of moving parts (LOF EXTREME) In that case. 2008 2.4 110 Utility XS. |
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11th Mar 2023 4:01pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 1736
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There is also the IRB developments (site sponsor) solution to consider, which I really like as “The new shaft uses the same main bolt (to attach to the gearbox)/same torque as per the original and thus ensures that the gearbox main shaft has the correct clamping force applied to it.”
https://irbdevelopments.com/defender-mt82-hd-adaptor-shaft-kit/ |
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11th Mar 2023 4:50pm |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 09 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2260 |
Its an old argument is it lack of grease? ,or poor alignment? or poor materials that causes the problem?....if its alignment causing the problem (which my money is on) the shaft is the weak point so breaks,if you replace it with a one piece shaft you may move the weak point into the gearbox. what we need is a truck that has had a couple of shaft changes and then a lof one piece/irb kit shaft is inserted and wait to see how long it lasts or whether there is any gearbox problems. |
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13th Mar 2023 1:29am |
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