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LandymanStefan



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England 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green

The fact they keep piping on about DNA and heritage and series 1 blah blah blah. This is a completely different vehicle to the old defender.

Also the situations theyre putting it in in the videos just seem very unlikely. The builder chap on a site in the high vis? This is transit van territory, built around a sheel of 8x4. Why would a bunch of builders pay double the price for half the space? I cant see people loading bricks into the back of it like a pick up. I think its a very niche market for a luxury 4x4 van.

To end on a plus note the commercial does look better than the passenger vehicle. I think a 110 USW version with the blanked back windows and with 5 seats would probably sell more than the full van version.

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Tim in Scotland



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Didn’t any of these arty farts ever go to a geography lesson................. I think we’ve pretty well proved now that the earth isn’t flat or a cube but they still persist in going to “the four corners of the earth/ world” ......... Rolling with laughter Woukd you buy a 2nd hand car from that man?......... Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top converted into a Station Wagon
Defender D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior with a few dealer options that replaced a totally faultless Mini Countryman PHEV


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J77



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Tim in Scotland



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Bottom one looks better and more like the car that was shown at the Frankfurt Motorshow. No rear doors makes it a Hard Top, and as somebody else pointed out, with rear doors it should be a Utility, also looking good in Epsom/Tonga/Aintree Green with the white roof and side panels Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top converted into a Station Wagon
Defender D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior with a few dealer options that replaced a totally faultless Mini Countryman PHEV

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Ads90



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

Only just noticed on the arm waving vid - do all the drivers side wipers sit high like that?

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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

Tim in Scotland wrote:
No rear doors makes it a Hard Top, and as somebody else pointed out, with rear doors it should be a Utility


Again, this is the sort of thing that happens when most of the workforce haven't been there long enough to know what you are even talking about.

They talk about heritage but then put most of it in the skip around the back of the office.

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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

lohr500 wrote:
Do you think Gerry is out of shot with the AK47. One wrong word and he pulls the trigger.
I've never heard so much rubbish in my life. This is not a commercial vehicle. Period. Another vanity product.

And seeing the very brief shot with the rear door open, I'll eat my hat if you could even get a Euro pallet in the back. The door doesn't look to swing open far enough.


It looks to be a very particular pallet, on a shrunk forklift:


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lohr500



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Agree. I think someone has been very busy with Photoshop! To a large extent it is irrelevant anyway as the reality is that if anyone wants to move pallets around, they will use a van or flat bed.

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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Keswick Green

I find the white sides a bit odd, as that was a series feature, not a Defender feature. I can't help think they might look better in body colour. 2011 110 USW
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Mike c



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Not fooled here by a token retro paint scheme/white steel wheels Laughing As already said, completely different vehicle, and I struggle to think of who would buy one of these for over 35k Shocked then put it to work Confused

Still clearly LR are desperately trying to display some kind of utility use of it for some credibility....

Will be interesting to see if any agencies/waterboards/authorities etc do start buying these in the future, just cannot see it somehow, the old Defenders had quite long service with these organisations, I doubt this would last, due to complexity, repair costs etc Question

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spudfan



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I could ask my wife to dress up as Marylin Monroe but ehh, well ehh, no harm to my wife she wouldn't come close to the real thing. Now regarding the new Defender...... 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
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walfy



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I suppose the traffic wombles would like this version. Comfy driving position, lots of rear space for all the cones they feel the need to put out and 3.5T towing capacity.
I can see a lot of these making it into that market when their current D5 (if thats what they are using) needs to be replaced 110 USW
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Mike c



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2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green

Yes quite likely, so another example of how it replaces a Discovery..., not a utility Land Rover.

But I think we all knew this type "replacement" vehicle was inevitable really, LRs interpretation of a modern Defender, which to be honest, we have had since 1989!

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J77



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Mike c wrote:
Not fooled here by a token retro paint scheme/white steel wheels Laughing As already said, completely different vehicle, and I struggle to think of who would buy one of these for over 35k Shocked then put it to work Confused

Still clearly LR are desperately trying to display some kind of utility use of it for some credibility....

Will be interesting to see if any agencies/waterboards/authorities etc do start buying these in the future, just cannot see it somehow, the old Defenders had quite long service with these organisations, I doubt this would last, due to complexity, repair costs etc Question


Plenty people spent more than that on the D4 commercial and put it to work.

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Tim in Scotland



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1st “Working” farm New Defender spotted

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Well I’ve just overtaken a farmer using his L663 First Edition to haul a triple axle Ivor Williams Beasty trailer home from Stirling Mart in my First Ed and I got both a wave and flashed headlights, now normally farmers driving Old Defenders round this way don’t greet other Defenders coming the other way but I got 3 who did today. Could it be the novelty of seeing their first New Defender in the flesh? Certainly caused a stir with 2 Disco5 owners at Sainsbury’s - they even waited until I got back after my shopping so that they could have a look inside. Both were farmers and one of them has 2 base models on order to be delivered next week - the D5 is being exchanged for one of them. Epsom Green Tdi300 County Hard Top converted into a Station Wagon
Defender D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior with a few dealer options that replaced a totally faultless Mini Countryman PHEV

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