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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
sender & fuel tank question
Couple of questions

1). My mate BigRuss reckons it's easy to drop the tank out of a 110, to get access to the top part where all the pipes are connected ... anyone actually removed / dropped down the tank... i'm thinking this is probably within my mechanical skills (just like a second opinion - no offence BigRuss)


2). Does anyone know, inside the fuel tank on a 2.4, is there a submerged pump or is there just the sender ? the reason I ask is, if there is something in the tank that could fail and would be impossible to access without dropping the tank down. If there is, then when the tank is dropped down, make an access hole in the rear tub.
Post #119048 27th Jan 2012 8:11pm
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Romadog



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Remove fuel first, or at least make sure its very low. Easier on a ramp, if not use jack to take weight of tank and handle the pipes with care as if same as Td5 then they are brittle. Access from floor can be cut through like a disco / rangie if you wish for the future. A bit of time and care would make a tidy job of this. Maybe measurements for others to do the same Whistle
Post #119053 27th Jan 2012 8:17pm
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leeds



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Yes a submerged pump which also has an inbuilt filter.

Was looking at a fuel tank about 4.5 years old on Wednesday. Tank had been sent back from Sweden with the comment that rust had formed inside tank and fuel pump was not working.

On removing pump no rust was found but what was taken to be organic matter blocking the pump filter. This organic matter could be pushed around the smooth bottom of the tank. Bio diesel/veg oil that had not been properly filtered?


Have seen an access panel so pump was accessible from up above Thumbs Up


Brendan
Post #119063 27th Jan 2012 8:30pm
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bpman



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thanks Brendan, good to know. So access hatch/door would be a good idea
Post #119069 27th Jan 2012 8:38pm
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BigRuss



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I can't say I've heard a not its not easy to do Whistle Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #119083 27th Jan 2012 9:02pm
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bpman



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BigRuss wrote:
I can't say I've heard a not its not easy to do Whistle


yeah, yeah, yeah - just wanted to check mate Thumbs Up Sounds like you are right (again!)
Post #119087 27th Jan 2012 9:07pm
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BigRuss



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bpman wrote:
BigRuss wrote:
I can't say I've heard a not its not easy to do Whistle


yeah, yeah, yeah - just wanted to check mate Thumbs Up Sounds like you are right (again!)


Whistle Whistle Whistle Russell
2011MY 110 XS USW Black
Post #119096 27th Jan 2012 9:20pm
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BigRuss



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Just don't ask me to much about the white magic stuff! Russell
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Post #119098 27th Jan 2012 9:21pm
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leeds



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A coule of problems with removing tank is the weight of it if fuel is in it.

Also much easier if it is on a four poster due to space to work in.


Brendan
Post #119101 27th Jan 2012 9:24pm
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Pam W



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England 1998 Defender 90 Td5 SW Auto Oslo Blue
When we did my rebuild we replaced the old 300tdi tub with a TD5 one. Getting the new plastic tank in the space at the back was an absolute pig of a job - all done on our drive. It just didn't seem to want to go in the gap!

Eventually it was in and Dave said then - whatever, he wasn't going to take the bug*er out ever again unless the body was off!

So when we did the engine swop this time, he needed to work on some pump bits in the tank..... you guessed it....I now have a 'ickle square inspection hole in the tub floor! Got no pics unfortunately but if anyone is really really wants them let me know (gotta pull the rubber mat back so not keen to do so unless really needed).
Post #119122 27th Jan 2012 10:18pm
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davew



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110 is a LOT easier to remove than a 90 so an access panel came very high on my list of jobs after I'd had to take the tank out of the 90 the first time due to a dodgy fuel level sender. It's paid dividends since as it's made access to the pump and sender unit very quick compared to the best part of a day it took me to remove and replace the tank.

I started by marking out the position of the strengthening bars on the bottom of the tub with masking tape then slid a piece of 3mm steel plate between the top of he tank and the floor to save any 'accidents" when cutting through the floor. After measuring and remeasuring the approximate position of the sender I cut a small 3 inch square hole above what I judged to be the centre of the sender. With that done I could expand the hole out to the final dimensions needed to remove the sender/pump unit.

I ended up with the hole slightly off centre to avoid cutting too far into the strengthening bars. I used 4 M6 rivnuts to secure the cover with countersunk M6 alan head bolts countersunk into a 3mm thick aluminium cover.
Post #119126 27th Jan 2012 10:24pm
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bpman



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thanks all, another job on the list.

does anyone have measurements for a 110 rear tub access panel ?
Post #119128 27th Jan 2012 10:26pm
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Tim_NZ



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leeds wrote:
Yes a submerged pump which also has an inbuilt filter.


On the Puma??? I'm 100% sure there isn't an in tank fuel pump. Here's a pic from the manual:


Click image to enlarge


Cheers,

Tim

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Post #119168 28th Jan 2012 1:00am
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cobs



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Cairns Blue
I wrote some notes up about dropping the tank on a 110 as part of fitting a Webasto - have a look in my gallery
Post #119202 28th Jan 2012 10:34am
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bell-auto-services



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Hi
PDF in the link below may help you, please tell me when you have saved it so i can remove from my server as i dont keep lr type docs on there.

www.bellautoservices.co.uk/public/pdf/puma-tank.pdf

Pete
Post #119205 28th Jan 2012 10:41am
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