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bpman



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Alive Tuning wrote:
2012 MOT & LED: Washing & levelling is not required for JWS LED headlights fitted to Defender as the luminous flux is below the threshold where this is mandatory.


Does this need more investigation ? In this months LRM mag, they have an advert for xtreem bulbs (beginning of mag) and state in 2012 MOT - LED and HID without washers & levelling will fail MOT. Are the MOT rules published for 2012 MOT yet ? Would be good to know for sure. I agree the flux is below the threshold for current legislation.
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bpman wrote:
Alive Tuning wrote:
2012 MOT & LED: Washing & levelling is not required for JWS LED headlights fitted to Defender as the luminous flux is below the threshold where this is mandatory.


Does this need more investigation ? In this months LRM mag, they have an advert for xtreem bulbs (beginning of mag) and state in 2012 MOT - LED and HID without washers & levelling will fail MOT. Are the MOT rules published for 2012 MOT yet ? Would be good to know for sure. I agree the flux is below the threshold for current legislation.


Surely that can't be right can it? Russell
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bpman wrote:
Alive Tuning wrote:
2012 MOT & LED: Washing & levelling is not required for JWS LED headlights fitted to Defender as the luminous flux is below the threshold where this is mandatory.


Does this need more investigation ? In this months LRM mag, they have an advert for xtreem bulbs (beginning of mag) and state in 2012 MOT - LED and HID without washers & levelling will fail MOT. Are the MOT rules published for 2012 MOT yet ? Would be good to know for sure. I agree the flux is below the threshold for current legislation.


Surely that can't be right can it?

How will the MOT guy know the JWS headlamps are below the threshold??

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8700 JWS has the ECE R112 homologation, THE SAME of the original bulb headlamps.

For the law the 8700 and originals ARE THE SAME HEADLAMPS !!!


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dgardel wrote:
8700 JWS has the ECE R112 homologation, THE SAME of the original bulb headlamps.

For the law the 8700 and originals ARE THE SAME HEADLAMPS !!!


Here the reg.: https://files.me.com/daniele.gardellin/0gt8tq


thanks very much for the link daniele, pretty much made my mind up, as soon as the side light versions have been tested, I'm going to have a pair. Alive tuning are testing them Jan 2012.
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you just need to sort out the washers and then you'll pass an MOT with them Thumbs Up Russell
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BigRuss wrote:
you just need to sort out the washers and then you'll pass an MOT with them Thumbs Up


na, no point, just put filament lights in for mot, especially as they are only going to be every 2 years. having said that, the little gyros in my model helicopter aren't expensive, so if I could talk to an engineer maybe we could put something together - know anyone BigRuss Whistle
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bpman wrote:
BigRuss wrote:
you just need to sort out the washers and then you'll pass an MOT with them Thumbs Up


na, no point, just put filament lights in for mot, especially as they are only going to be every 2 years. having said that, the little gyros in my model helicopter aren't expensive, so if I could talk to an engineer maybe we could put something together - know anyone BigRuss Whistle


Nope Rolling with laughter Russell
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i have a set of the LED healights fitted to my 110 DC, ( perks of working with Mobilecentre ), and at a recent MOT of my landy, i asked about the LED / HID law, to which the tester said he knows nothing has yet...mine passed tho.. Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull..
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adafish wrote:
i have a set of the LED healights fitted to my 110 DC, ( perks of working with Mobilecentre ), and at a recent MOT of my landy, i asked about the LED / HID law, to which the tester said he knows nothing has yet...mine passed tho..


I think it's gonna be on of those rules only applies when the tester remembers Whistle Russell
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^^ wot he said
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bpman wrote:
^^ wot he said


I agree Whistle Russell
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^^ yeah
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bpman wrote:
^^ yeah


Same Russell
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like the look of SteveS's light bar too.

I'm going to see how the tests go on the slidelight version of the 8700's and get some in Feb.
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