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| proloForęt Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248   
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Interesting that now in the USA that the areas of Open Carry are now the most safe against these crimes. So in case of USA, more guns carried by more people in open has leaded to less innocent deaths.
It is a bit like car accidents. I remember the theroy that if there was a sharp spike on every single steering wheel then there would be very few accidents anymore. |
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13th Jun 2017 8:50pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 992  
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There were armed police around Houses of Parliament, there were armed police in Nice, in Paris, in Germany where many officers carry weapons, but still did not stop the innocent from being murdered Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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13th Jun 2017 9:41pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264  
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No offence taken 
And regards shooting them in the back...not wanting to discriminate I'd suggesting in the back, front, side or top shouldn't matter either way. In fact preferably all three  |
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13th Jun 2017 9:59pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16876 
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Hang on - back, front side and top, isn't that four not three? Or five if you include both sides!
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13th Jun 2017 10:22pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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3 or 4. What the hell?
Bit like a gun don't matter how you hold it so long a it goes bang.  |
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13th Jun 2017 10:25pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16876
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For some reason this thread is starting to remind me of this:
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13th Jun 2017 10:45pm |
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| Low-Range Member Since: 30 Sep 2016 Location: BC Posts: 41 
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Good for cutting firewood as well.
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13th Jun 2017 10:48pm |
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| Low-Range Member Since: 30 Sep 2016 Location: BC Posts: 41
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In Canada last year two terrorists attacked our Parliament gunning down one of two soldiers guarding a memorial. They had firearms BUT NO Ammunition. One of the attackers was shot by the House of Commons’ former Sergeant-at-Arms, Kevin Vickers, and Barrett “fired their weapons and neutralized the threat.”
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13th Jun 2017 10:55pm |
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| Thon Member Since: 22 Nov 2015 Location: Salisbury Plain Posts: 696
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Good point for a majority of gun owners, but I think there are more out there immediately available than you may think, particularly in rural communities. I know our local farmer is always equipped as you never know when pest control is needed, and even within our little village there are 4 or 5 such gentlemen. That also excludes the blokes with tanks that we have mooching around the plain...  |
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14th Jun 2017 12:13am |
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| proloForęt Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248
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These attacks were all ended by the use of guns against the jihadi. If there were more good with guns sooner in the attacks then the end would have come before it did and less innocent people hurt or murdered. The village of my wife has a story with Charlie Hebdo attack. Now a family is without a father as he is berried nicely in the church garden. He just went to work on the electricity of the building next door. First victim. If he, his workmate or another had a gun then perhaps those 3 children would still have their father. But apparently the concept of someone having the right to defend themselves is not acceptable to many people even at the cost of the jihadi winning. |
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14th Jun 2017 9:04am |
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| Riverboy Member Since: 16 May 2016 Location: French sector, Earth Posts: 1288 
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One only has to look at "la chasse" here in France to see what a bad idea it is to allow the public to carry guns. They cant even distinguish between a Boar, a walker or each other
 The only terrorists in my part of France are "la chasse", they really do terrorise home owners and pets.  We've been shot at, had two men and a child shooting towards the back of the house, had shots fired across my land, close to my horses, and had a cartridge left in my postbox as a threat after we confronted them.
Just imagine if they could carry guns in town
I'm not against hunting BTW. I come from a farming family, lived in the countryside my entire life and support organised hunting be it for food, pest control or culling. I am very strongly against hunting as a sport and armed vigilantes. Last edited by Riverboy on 14th Jun 2017 10:00am. Edited 3 times in total |
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14th Jun 2017 9:24am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6264
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/\ very sad regards the attack and loss of good people.
If the opportunity became available to train and become armed I'd happily pay. What price can you put on being able to protect your family from such people in these scenarios. |
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14th Jun 2017 9:25am |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 
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The term jihadi implies that there is some sort of religious authority to the action of the perpetrator, which from my personal interactions with various people who are faithful to the same religion as these attacker's claim to be, there is not. These people are criminals engaged in acts of terror. They are not mindful devotees of Islam or Christianity or any of the countless other religions. They are thugs doing the bidding of cowards. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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14th Jun 2017 9:28am |
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| proloForęt Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248
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About 5% of muslims live in Europe and more than 99% are peaceful and fine. My daughters best friend at school is from this faith and never I even consider this in my mind.
The problem is that these bad people, they are bad first, follow a different attitude that is actually practiced very widly on earth. You can not hide from this fact. For instance about 10 times as many live in countries where it is against their official law to be gay or even not a muslim. Some have death for this. Europe is trapped into it own arrogance that it feel it way is the way of the world. It is not so it is easy for these bad people to find a group to encoragement them because it is much more numbers than peaceful in Europe. To them they are very religious in justification for what they do. More in world think this way than in Europe. |
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14th Jun 2017 10:15am |
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