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Hairy Dan



Member Since: 25 Apr 2013
Location: NW Durham
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White
Yes just watched that, some spec for a van Shocked Cheers Ian
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22MY Defender 110 D200 SE, Fuji White.
Kielder 4x4 Safari
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Sonic3d



Member Since: 28 Jan 2008
Location: Ross on Wye
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey
Similar spec to mine which I collect on September 1st 😊
Except I’m having the fridge instead of the 3rd seat
Post #918932 28th Aug 2021 12:38am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
It's a "fault" of most vehicles but the bulkhead really shows how much the front seats sit behind the B pillar and impinge on rear seat space. I'm not sure why seats and pillars don't align better?


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Post #918944 28th Aug 2021 7:05am
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Sonic3d



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Stornoway Grey
The B pillar on the 90 is a lot further back than the 110.
Post #918951 28th Aug 2021 8:03am
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Farmerben



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
Supacat wrote:
It's a "fault" of most vehicles but the bulkhead really shows how much the front seats sit behind the B pillar and impinge on rear seat space. I'm not sure why seats and pillars don't align better?


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The bulkhead has to allow for full range of seat travel and is actually quite thick. It isn't really a true reflection of the 110 SW rear leg room. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
Post #918955 28th Aug 2021 8:11am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Farmerben wrote:
The bulkhead has to allow for full range of seat travel...

I think that's the point I was making...it's huge.


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So why don't the pillars line up with the seats? Does it in any car?
Post #919014 28th Aug 2021 5:39pm
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pjm-84



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Not when I'm driving.
Post #919025 28th Aug 2021 6:44pm
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Farmerben



Member Since: 16 Jan 2017
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
Supacat wrote:
Farmerben wrote:
The bulkhead has to allow for full range of seat travel...

I think that's the point I was making...it's huge.


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So why don't the pillars line up with the seats? Does it in any car?


Depends how long your legs are! My shoulder is just in front of the seatbelt. I’m 5 10 with admittedly chimp like proportions of short legs/long body. https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
Post #919062 29th Aug 2021 9:50am
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
I think that the bulk head is crying out for a molle kit.

There’s a lot of wasted space there that could be adapted by the owner using ex military pouches.

Even in ‘work mode’ surely if the designers at JLR had any real world experience they would know that there should be somewhere to store, close to hand, a first aid kit, fire extinguisher, a pocket for paperwork, a quick release system for a large flask.

And as the vehicle is designed to work, why oh why put the jack under the rear floor especially as you would expect the back end to be used. Again, it could be attached to the molle frame behind the seats

Hopefully the aftermarket will see the opportunity here.

This is my favourite vehicle in the line up.
Post #919070 29th Aug 2021 10:39am
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J77



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With the amount of seat travel in the front, you’d need to have legs like a giraffe to need the seat that far back Laughing 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
Post #919080 29th Aug 2021 11:50am
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Tim in Scotland



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Or normally drive a BMW 316 tarted up to look like an M3 or an Audi A3 , with the drivers seat back in sun lounger mode……. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!


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Post #919087 29th Aug 2021 1:42pm
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J77



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Don’t know how they can drive like that. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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Farmerben



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
markb110 wrote:
I think that the bulk head is crying out for a molle kit.

There’s a lot of wasted space there that could be adapted by the owner using ex military pouches.

Even in ‘work mode’ surely if the designers at JLR had any real world experience they would know that there should be somewhere to store, close to hand, a first aid kit, fire extinguisher, a pocket for paperwork, a quick release system for a large flask.

And as the vehicle is designed to work, why oh why put the jack under the rear floor especially as you would expect the back end to be used. Again, it could be attached to the molle frame behind the seats

Hopefully the aftermarket will see the opportunity here.

This is my favourite vehicle in the line up.


Definitely potential there for additions on both sides of the bulkhead. There’s a little net pouch behind each seat and the seats have the pockets in the back of them but a lot of empty space https://instagram.com/bentheoandrews
Post #919158 30th Aug 2021 7:23am
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markb110



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England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
If you buy one, do you think that the salesman will empty the contents of his bin across your dashboard and throw in a copy of the Sun, a week old copy of the Racing Post and an empty Costa cup for your loose change and spare washers.....because it a van.... Thumbs Up
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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
I've taken my bulkhead out and removed the covers from the second row door windows. I can now access the handy space directly behind the seats. And the storage pockets on the back of the seats. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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