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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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Interesting, especially given the rendered images of a forward control new Defender:
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge "The electric pickup battle has a new challenger in the form of Canoo which late on Wednesday unveiled a flexible pickup truck offering up to 600 hp. Canoo is an electric-vehicle startup with a modular platform in the familiar skateboard form, but with by-wire steering. The company, which went public last December via a SPAC deal, has previously shown its platform in a minivan and a delivery van. The pickup truck looks to be the most ambitious yet. The vehicle sports a non-conventional design, though it's nowhere as radical as the Tesla Cybertruck shown in 2019. It's non-conventional in that the cab has been moved forward, since there's no engine taking up space, and this has resulted in more space for the bed. The smart packaging means the relatively small pickup, which has no name by the way, measures just 184 inches long but has a bed that's 72 inches long. This isn't bad on its own but a 30-inch extension makes the bed about the length of a full-size truck bed—and secondary lamps in back make it usable with that extension." https://www.motorauthority.com/news/113153...ble-pickup https://player.vimeo.com/video/522176934 Video is worth watching to see the thought that has gone into making the vehicle really functional and modular. Edit: Costs look surprisingly good, if they can be believed: "The Lifestyle vehicle is planned for launch later next year and starts at $34,750, with premium models topping out at $49,950. With an advertised battery range of 250 miles, 300 horsepower, and 332 foot-pounds of torque, it seems, at least to me, to be an electric adventure van in the making." https://www.overlandexpo.com/compass/2021/...ils-specs/ Last edited by Supacat on 9th Jul 2021 6:38am. Edited 1 time in total |
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11th Mar 2021 1:48pm |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 800 
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I saw this earlier on Electrek, and my first thought was omg that's ugly!
But then I realised it was a cab-forward type design, which is usually great from a space point of view, and it would clearly make a great camper. And the modularity could be useful. Watching the vid I was a little surprised seeing how far back the driver sits - maybe it's crash protection but seems like wasted space - there could be a second row of seats in that cab (or alternatively a longer bed) if the front seats were a couple of feet further forward. Bit like that electric Morris van - that also had a big old gap below the windscreen. Exciting times though - I like how much innovation can come from using skateboard platforms. |
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11th Mar 2021 5:20pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Click image to enlarge Yes I see what you mean by the space in the front, although there is a small front boot. Click image to enlarge I thought getting a full sheet of ply was a pretty good measure of the bed being big enough? Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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11th Mar 2021 5:47pm |
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| IRBails Member Since: 25 Feb 2021 Location: Wollongong, NSW Posts: 25 
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In Australia people are buying 200 series Landcruisers and cutting the rear off and making a 4 door ute. Do a D350 twin cab with 1000 kg load and 350 towball weight and 3500 kg tow weight and they would sell. |
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11th Apr 2021 1:39am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3247 
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Another pick up render, one of the better ones I think.
24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue |
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15th Jun 2021 8:03pm |
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| Swac3 Member Since: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 363 |
Thats quite a hefty bodyshell change tho isn't it, as there's no 110 thats not got rear doors, So in reality a totally new shell design and manufacture.
looks nice mind you 3 Landrovers |
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15th Jun 2021 10:23pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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And that's the problem with going with a unibody design from the start.
Makes perfect sense when you have decided, like JLR apparently did, that they were not going to make a pickup. But then makes it harder when you change your mind. There's more than a certain sense of irony that as JLR move off a modular platform to unibody, many manufacturers are moving away from unibody towards body on frame, or skateboard, as the battery platforms are now being labelled. |
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9th Jul 2021 6:29am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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More renders...
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge http://www.autonews-mag.com/news/2022-land...s-rendered |
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9th Sep 2021 9:25am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750 
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Hardly worth the extra engineering costs to make the top render……….. looks like it would have less load capacity than the car version although………. Wouldn’t take much to go from that to a full open top car! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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9th Sep 2021 10:45am |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3247
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90 pick up would be good, not much of a load bed but neither was the old one. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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9th Sep 2021 11:03am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16876 
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I'm not sure how you'd open the rear offside door in the lower render, with the lunchbox attached to the roof like that! 
Do the people who do these renders really have that little clue? I suppose they must. |
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9th Sep 2021 12:06pm |
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| Orchard Member Since: 07 May 2015 Location: Usually walking the dog Posts: 258 |
Pick-up. Not going to happen. Too difficult. Too expensive. Too niche. 2015 90 XS SW Bowler
1998 TD5 CSW |
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11th Sep 2021 1:14pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Too difficult ~ technically or just in today's circumstances?
Too expensive ~ for people happy to spend £100k on a V8? Too niche ~ for a manufacturer that has declared the Defender pillar will spawn a family of models? I have some sympathy with the view it won't happen, but in terms of credibility can JLR flip on this yet again.? |
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11th Sep 2021 2:53pm |
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| Orchard Member Since: 07 May 2015 Location: Usually walking the dog Posts: 258 |
It's the combination. Designing a new rear structure after the BIW has been finished is of course technically possible (anything is with enough time and money), but it's time consuming and expensive, with a lot of Body Shop re-tooling to do, $$$$$
Too much investment would be required to make a business case work unless it's really premium, and there aren't many (any) commercially successful non-US branded premium pickups. It was never in the plan and JLR haven't committed so there isn't really a flip flop. The Defender family in my view has also meant a range of models, not just body variants of the same vehicle. 2015 90 XS SW Bowler 1998 TD5 CSW |
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13th Sep 2021 10:53am |
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