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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
That's good to know and echoes what I've read elsewhere. Darren

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Black Puma



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Sumatra Black
Thank you Bow down information from this forum always gold.

What is shocking, that Gwynne Lewis sell the kit for $AU420. Super pro in aus and discount retailers in aus sell the same kit for $AU786.

Same as cheaper Aussie beer in the USA, or UK Rolling with laughter


**Edit** have found for a 'better' price $AU561 for... "KIT043AK SuperPro F&R Radius Arms & Panhard Rods Bush Kit Fits Honda Land Rover" Whistle
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jimbo55



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The Honda bit Probably stems from when LR and had a deal on disco 1’s with Honda for them to be sold in some markets.

From memory, it was a Honda Crossroad? But maybe wrong, was just a rebadged disco
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LandRoverAnorak



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Yeah, that's right:


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 Darren

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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Draughts! B Pillar
I was driving along on one of those really cold days last week when I noticed an icy draught coming from between the seat and the cubby box, so yesterday I set about curing it.

After having a bit of a poke around, I realised that I could see daylight when looking down at the joint where the B pillar meets the back of the seat box. There is a small block of foam here that's clearly intended to seal this joint but it's both too small and positioned incorrectly. It was the same on both sides, too. Well done Land Rover Rolling Eyes


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It's an awkward little corner but I hacked the foam out with a screwdriver, cleaned it up with white spirit and then patched each hole with three layers of sticky back neoprene:

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The daylight still visible in that photo is forward, back into the cab.

I also took the opportunity to plug or seal all of the various holes in each B post starting with these 3D printed plugs for the hinge bolt access holes:


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I bought these from CSI at Peterborough a few years ago and they've languished in the garage ever since as I'd forgotten about them. Anyway, they're easy to fit as they just snap into position:


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Above and below the top of those are a couple of M8 threaded holes. I've no idea what they're for - maybe something to do with the manufacturing process? Anyway, I cleaned the paint out of the threads with a tap and then plugged them with some M8 button heads and rubber washers:


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Then finally, there are a couple of square holes near the base of the pillar that I covered with some neatly cut pieces of duct tape, I'd run out of square bolts Laughing


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A quick test drive has shown that all of this has completely cured the draught and made a massive difference to comfort levels, which is nice Cool Darren

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Rosco



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Ah duct tape. The engineers favourite!

I've fitted those CSI parts to mine. Tidy things up nicely. I'm going to have to go and investigate the other gaps now. 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone
2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone
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excossack



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Re: Draughts! B Pillar
LandRoverAnorak wrote:

A quick test drive has shown that all of this has completely cured the draught and made a massive difference to comfort levels, which is nice Cool


Did you also get a draught on your right arm? I feel a draught and no idea where from...but now I might... 1999 Defender TD5 110

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LandRoverAnorak



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
Hmm, not particularly, no. My draught (!) was definitely down by my left hip. Darren

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excossack



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Cheers. I think I will take a look in the at area to double check I have no holes letting heat out and cold in! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Re: Draughts! B Pillar
LandRoverAnorak wrote:
I was driving along on one of those really cold days last week when I noticed an icy draught coming from between the seat and the cubby box, so yesterday I set about curing it.....


Well done Darren and you are exactly right on the foam in-fill blocks at the base of the B Pillar Exclamation

I found this out on my wife's 110 when spraying Dinitrol... luckily before too much had reached areas where it was not intended... (the pre main application mist coat was easy to remove before drying)

Also interesting to see your approach to making good the generally half finished appearance Land Rover 'decided' was good enough in this area, i'm liking the 3D printed inserts and will add these to the 110 to-do list.

Thanks again for sharing your experiences... we follow better informed... Thumbs Up SKIP
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LandRoverAnorak



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Heh, heh, thanks Skip Smile Darren

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geobloke



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jimbo55 wrote:
The Honda bit Probably stems from when LR and had a deal on disco 1’s with Honda for them to be sold in some markets.

From memory, it was a Honda Crossroad? But maybe wrong, was just a rebadged disco


Precisely Thumbs Up Honda Cross Road, which evolved in to the Honda Cross Road Vehicle, the CRV Shocked
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geobloke



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Re: Draughts! B Pillar
Those B pillar blanking plates are genius. Did you make them or buy them? If the latter where from?
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LandRoverAnorak



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They're from CSI Parts, although I can't get their website to load at the moment Confused Darren

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geobloke



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Excellent. Thanks LRA. Never heard of them before now. Rolling Eyes
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