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Martin
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Replacing the plug to the cluster doesn't fix the problem. The problem exists on the printed circuit board inside the cluster, and opening the cluster to repair it does carry a risk of damaging the needle stepper motors.

Other than the logged cluster fault what you've done is fine.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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JBLancs



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Hi Martin

Yep all understood, just regretting letting the garage cut the loom if the cluster could be repaired but all is good the wires are soldered together and heat shrunk so probably best to just leave as is now. Was just thinking if I could get a plug I could put it back to standard.

Cheers
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Martin
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You wouldn't need an entire plug, probably just a couple of terminals with wires to refit where yours have been cut off.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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Noted, I’ll look into getting a couple of pins. Thankyou.
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I can supply the pins (with or without wire attached) for the cluster plug Smile

Let me know if that helps Smile

Martin  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW
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JBLancs



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Thanks Martin. Yes that might be great! Might you also be the man to look at the repair to the clocks? Or is this something that can be done at home?

Cheers
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Buckingham Blue
Hi sorry to hijack the post im josh new to this forum and new to defenders😂 i have same issue cranking not starting done this mod to no avail got fuel to injectors new crank and cam sensor no fault codes getting alittle lost now wondering if anyone has any ideas?
Thanks
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Ianh



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What vehicle do you have, what year ?

It could be a loose connection on the ignition

Also have a read of this topic https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic80890...t=ignition

Covers relays, fuses, wiring, earths to check etc


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Post #951597 4th May 2022 7:34pm
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joshramsell



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Sorry i have 2.4 tdci 2009
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joshramsell



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Had another look today no power to the injectors so thats the issue but unsure what is causing it? Cleaned all earth checked all plugs fuses and so on is the 10as box able to cause this issue even with imobliser goiyoff dash ect?
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joshramsell



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Anyone help? 2.4 tdci 09 reg been sat a few years was all fine when parked now new batter on will crank and fire once? No fault codes had new crank sensor and cam sensor fuel to top of injectors blip turns immobliser light off dash so seems to be working? But seems like it’s immobilised and checked no pwer to injector wires? Losing my mind now?? Any help ideas appreciated thanks
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Hi Josh, I have a VERY similar problem on my 2012 2.2 Puma. I have checked all the fuses and relays and they are all fine. There are a lot of people on here who have vastly more experience and knowledge than me, but what I have found and you may have similar symptoms, is that if you crank it over straight through from ignition on, with no waiting for glow plugs, etc, you’ll get about 2 seconds of the engine turning over and firing a few times, but then dying. The more you hesitate after ignition on, the less cranking time you’ll get, until you don’t get anything.
I have disabled the immobiliser using a Nanocom, but to no effect. I suspect that in my case it is something to do with either the transponder coil around the ignition barrel and or the 10AS unit which I’m going to send off to be checked very shortly. Maybe you have a similar problem? I’m going to make a phone call to Technozen-Electronics tomorrow and see what they say. I did try Remote Key, but they never get back to me. I will let you know what they say.
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joshramsell wrote:
Anyone help? 2.4 tdci 09 reg been sat a few years was all fine when parked now new batter on will crank and fire once? No fault codes had new crank sensor and cam sensor fuel to top of injectors blip turns immobliser light off dash so seems to be working? But seems like it’s immobilised and checked no pwer to injector wires? Losing my mind now?? Any help ideas appreciated thanks


Does the interior light come on when you open the driver/passenger door?
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No just checked it now if i turn it on manually it comes on but not when doors are opened
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I’m not saying that this is your problem, but it looks like the 10AS may be at fault. It seems to be a difficult one to diagnose easily without multimeters, oscilloscopes,etc but it’s relatively easy to remove and send off. I’ve attached a photo from the Technozen web site. He lists one of the faults on the 10AS being the courtesy light not working. It’s not that expensive to send it off and at least that way it can be checked and fixed if there’s a problem.

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