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NormanD Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 282	A review of the Bronco from Deboss Garage, some interesting comments - &ab_channel=DEBOSSGARAGE NormanD WE191 2015 110 XS Utility 2014 VW Caravelle 180 Executive
30th Oct 2021 1:43pm

markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2522	Well, this puts the Bowler Challenge 90 in the shade……. Hands up, who wants one for Xmas
2nd Nov 2021 4:00am

Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 992	Auto Express Bronco Test https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/road-tests/3...dium=email Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold
12th Dec 2021 1:20pm

Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2593	90 vs Bronco  -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
22nd Dec 2021 4:08pm

defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1613	My Brother in Law in Seattle has his name down for one, lucky chap.
22nd Dec 2021 5:05pm

Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765

Thanks Naks, enjoyable viewing. A gentleman who has big enthusiasm to match his big frame. And what a lucky fellow: “…here in MY forest…”. Only in Canada. Or at least, not in Western Europe. Using his frame as a guide, noticeable how much more compact the cabin dimensions are in the Bronco than the Def. Markedly so. It does seem that every video comparing the New Defender with vehicle X, Y or Z, is only ever shod with the Goodyears and as such will always immediately put the ND at a disadvantage. I wonder why they’re never allowed to slap on something more robust or more off-roady? The conspiracy theorist in me would suggest it’s a JLR HQ policy. By never allowing it to be tested against competitors with like-for-like tyres, any failure against those other marques and models can always be blamed on the tyre (clearly evidenced here) rather than the vehicle or tech. I can’t see any other reason why every, single review is undertaken with crap tyres, whilst every Bronco, Rubicon, etc is shod properly.  Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

23rd Dec 2021 8:56am

cyberhusky Member Since: 09 Feb 2021 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 262

I don't think that it's a JLR policy of not allowing other tyres. I think the JLR dealers do lend a car as it is: bring it back without scratches please! Most of these tests are biased to one or the other side. Most US (or Canadian) testers always see their cars superior to European cars. I think quality wise their cars are years behind European cars. The Defender normally can go through where the other car seems to play, but the Defender shows it with normal street tyres. And that is really great performance. The other cars wouldn't come far with normal tyres. I noticed it myself the other day when I pulled another car out of a field full of mud. Just with plain Michelin All Season 18" tyres. As for the Bronco, I sat in one at a dealer in Luxembourg (he does import a small number directly from the USA): At lot of plastic though the car is as big as the Defender, it feels narrow inside. The dealer told me it will come to Europe sometimes, but only the model shown, not the one shown in the video. 22MY Defender 110 (actual) | 10MY Freelander 2 (history) | 15MY Discovery Sport HSE (history)

23rd Dec 2021 9:27am

Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3750

Surprise suprise TFL Off-road has a broken Bronco……… it’s developed a Land Rover Defender type issue…  Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

23rd Dec 2021 10:27am

markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2522	Kinda felt they dragged that video out a bit A leaking shock which should be replaced at the dealer. That’s what they should have just reported. Not exactly a check engine light, engine trashed, car ridden off having a winch installed and two trashed tyres on a mild off road trail…… Talking of which, have they got rid of their Defender, not seen it for a while? Nice vid of the underside though…….
23rd Dec 2021 11:45am

J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3247	Haven’t watched the video but when it says “Major Leak” I assumed engine oil or something  24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
23rd Dec 2021 11:52am

DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1351	From around £23,000 + local sales tax. This is what you get for that:
24th Dec 2021 12:39am

Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765

Mental. Far prefer the look of that to the new 90. Perfect balance of retro Bronco styling brought into the 21stC. Steelies are a bit small (or at least the tyres are) so maybe address that to fill the arch a bit more. Perhaps add a roof rack? But otherwise like it a lot. And it’s simple, practical and offers (roof popping) fun. At that price it would be a good alternative to a 90 Wolf that’s been renovated for some occasional summer’s day soft top outings, but comes with modern trappings, drivability and warranty. And LR couldn’t do that (or feel the need to do that) why? Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

26th Dec 2021 8:57am

Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765	markb110 wrote: Well, this puts the Bowler Challenge 90 in the shade……. Hands up, who wants one for Xmas That sounds effing amazing. If you didn’t like the one Santa brought you Mark, I’ll have it… Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
26th Dec 2021 9:21am

DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1351	Grenadier wrote: At that price it would be a good alternative to a 90 Wolf that’s been renovated for some occasional summer’s day soft top outings, but comes with modern trappings, drivability and warranty. My thoughts were, it's got everything I want in a daily driver, except heated seats and front screen. It's a decent size too and 300bhp! At that price I'd have one on order.
26th Dec 2021 3:38pm

markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2522

DSC-off wrote: From around £23,000 + local sales tax. This is what you get for that: Let’s not forget that Ford have openly said that they want their customers to make their Bronco their own. The US already has a ton of fabricators at the ready to modify the Bronco for the use and taste of the owner. So in that case why buy a top spec then remove X only to replace it with uprated parts. For example a couple of years ago Off-road Evolution took a base spec Jeep Gladiator, then kitted it out for off-road / overlanding including better suspension and 37” tyres and lockers for less that the cost of the Rubicon version without the rest of the build kit. Land Rover could have done the same and lowered the towing capacity by specking smaller brakes then fitted a more suitable wheel / tyre size for those that what to travel off the beaten path… Hence the US market will always be behind the Jeep and Bronco and not the Defender.

26th Dec 2021 7:44pm

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