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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11240   
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My wife saw one at the Goodwood Revival a week or so ago and came away very impressed. She liked the interior in particular, especially the size of the boot, which compares favourably with her D4. She's now signed up for their mailing list and suggested that we put a deposit down! Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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26th Sep 2021 10:28pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5765  
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I was subscribed but didn’t get anything through. I’ve resubmitted the form on the French site, will see what comes of it. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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28th Sep 2021 8:36am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4481 
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Yep just got it 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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28th Sep 2021 7:48pm |
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| Gleo Member Since: 01 Mar 2016 Location: Mayo Posts: 43 
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Do you think if the Grenadier is a success it might effect 2nd hand values for the old Defenders?
Thinking of selling my Puma 90 Defender now once I place a deposit down, as 2nd hand prices for Puma Defenders are holding up very well right now, but I suspect they might drop when the new model Defenders start trickling into the 2nd hand market and also when the Grenadier comes on stream. Any thoughts...seems to be a good time to sell a Puma Defender now anyway if you're inclined to be selling? |
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28th Sep 2021 7:56pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4481
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If someone wants a Defender they will buy a Defender no matter what else is out there. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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28th Sep 2021 8:05pm |
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| kenzle8a Member Since: 12 Feb 2020 Location: None Posts: 1074 
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The Defender is now getting into classic 911 territory, in that the values are IMO immune to other market forces and are going daft as people want the image. |
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28th Sep 2021 8:20pm |
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| diduan Member Since: 13 Oct 2016 Location: Central Balkan Posts: 260 
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There aren't much classic defenders for sale right now and I think there will be less in the future. Grenadier on the other hand may be exclusive now but will be more and more available in the future. Market will follow. Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
Jeep Wrangler YJ 1990 4.0. Front 78' Dana 60, Rear CUCV 14 bolt |
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28th Sep 2021 8:41pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Numbers direct from the "company says around 75,000 people have now raised their hands as prospective buyers of the vehicle. These ‘handraisers’ will be able to place a build reservation from tomorrow (Sept 30), for an exclusive two-week period. From October 14, reservations will be open to everyone else." https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/in...4x4/235346 If everyone places an order than that's 3 years production even before the main deposit list opens... |
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29th Sep 2021 5:20pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997 
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These numbers of “handraisers” are from the same school of ridiculous nonsense as the figures number of people who used the new Defender configurator that JLR published. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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29th Sep 2021 6:42pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Actually committing to purchase is going to be interesting. Now left.
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29th Sep 2021 6:51pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Same school yes, perhaps a higher stream though. JLR’s 1.3m configurations, led to 11,000 actual orders. So 1 sale per 118. Ineos have to get initial orders of 636 to better that conversion rate... Even refundable deposits does not give much away. |
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29th Sep 2021 8:11pm |
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| Prospector Member Since: 08 Jul 2021 Location: Arizona Posts: 17 
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Can anybody answer, including Grenadier corporate?
BMW’s B58 petrol engine (1st generation) was introduced with their 2016 vehicles and was identified as B58B30M0. Along about 2019 BMW made improvements and began producing two 2nd generation engines, identified as B58B30M1 and B58B30O0. Which engine has Ineos selected for production of the Grenadier? I realize that Ineos may make ancillary modifications such as shape / capacity of the oil pan to deal with off-road inclines, descents, and side angles, and possibly a larger alternator for tow packages, and others. Should BMW decide to create another designated engine number, it would likely be within the family of one of the three engines listed above. |
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15th Oct 2021 9:43pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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If only I had one of those software packages you see in films, "can you zoom in on those labels"...
 Click image to enlarge In the back of my mind I seem to have the fact that the scale of the requirements from Ineos meant BMW were going to give the engines their own unique designations. |
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16th Oct 2021 9:13am |
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| m0ondogy Member Since: 04 Oct 2021 Location: East Coast Posts: 8
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So, what design changes will need to happen to get this thing road legal?
For example. This will need three amber lights on the front to get to the US. Anything wider than 80 inches requires them. Also, it will need a reverse camera. I'm sure more is needed, but I'm not sure what? Any idea? How about European, Aus, etc... What do you need? |
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17th Oct 2021 2:15am |
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