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Minch90



Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
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OK all

I need to do this, but for the life of me cannot see any way in my 58 90 to get a hand near the pipe at the tank end - I've been under, behind and from the side. I can't even see the pipe end with a bright light, so how Blackwolf managed this...

So any advice before I drop the tank down?

Stay safe all in these strange times

R 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
S3 V8 Lightweight - in the garage being ignored #newchassistime
S3 lightweight - 2nd car 24V fire risk with a full tilt and the windscreen down
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Post #821441 26th Mar 2020 12:37pm
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Minch90



Member Since: 15 Sep 2017
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Fuel breather (I know there's a sticky, but...)
OK all

I need to replace the breather on my '58 90, I've read and re-read the sticky post but for the life of me cannot see any way to get a hand near the pipe at the tank end, been all around tank with a torch and can barely see the pipe, can get hand over/under to it - is the "hand-job" approach Rolling with laughter just a possibility in a 110 and not a 90?

So it looks like I will need to drop the tank (a bit), I've looked this up on the workshop manual, which makes it sound very easy (but previously I've found workshop ease to be inversely proportional to degree of swearing). Again I've read and re-read the sticky and people seem to have mixed experiences on possibility/practicality/ease of doing this - all bolts out, support tank and shield, push forward, lower down and it may/may not move!

So any 90-specific advice on how best to replace my leaking pipe, it has been leaking for a while but recently had to swap fuel filter (starvation issues) and the crud that came out Big Cry

Stay safe all in these strange times

R 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
S3 V8 Lightweight - in the garage being ignored #newchassistime
S3 lightweight - 2nd car 24V fire risk with a full tilt and the windscreen down
S1 80" - first car fun - 75mph in neutral downhill once #wobblesallround
Post #822261 30th Mar 2020 2:25pm
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DAZ110



Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
Cut a hole in the floor, Have a look here:

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic22296...;start=105

Worked fine for me, saves dropping the tank. Thumbs Up
Post #822317 30th Mar 2020 6:20pm
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jst



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2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Drop the tank and do it properly. No tow hitch it's about 2hrs work. Hardest bit is leveling tank out and back in, it's a snug fit Cheers

James
110 XS Utility
130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #822360 30th Mar 2020 8:31pm
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DAZ110



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That’s to much work James ! Whistle
Post #822361 30th Mar 2020 8:32pm
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ericvv



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Re: Fuel breather (I know there's a sticky, but...)
Post #822432 31st Mar 2020 6:15am
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bear100



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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Ive got to do this on my 110, but have been putting it off for a while, likewise i have read and reread the posts but its going to be a struggle i have big hands

Good luck Thumbs Up 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
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Post #822447 31st Mar 2020 9:11am
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DAZ110



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Another person that needs to cut a hole in the floor...? Whistle Mr. Green
Post #822461 31st Mar 2020 9:55am
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landy andy



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I struggled and struggled and even struggled a bit more. Loads of cuts on my hands loads of swearing, many disgusted neighbours, bad back and neck, 6kg of crap in my eyes, and after required about 6 pints and a bottle of wine, but it is doable. Oh and I still worried if I had done it properly for at least a week after. But it is possible.



So drop the tank Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
Post #822464 31st Mar 2020 10:23am
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blackwolf



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bear100 wrote:
Ive got to do this on my 110, but have been putting it off for a while, likewise i have read and reread the posts but its going to be a struggle i have big hands

Good luck Thumbs Up


It is definitely possible on a 110 (and I have big, and now scarred, hands too)!

Having subsequently had to drop the tank to replace the fuel pick-up, I have to say dropping the tank is easier than you would think and much less painful. I'd probably drop the tank next time.
Post #822471 31st Mar 2020 11:02am
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X4SKP



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Hello Minch90

You are right there is a range of experience when faced with this
from owning a 90 Evil or Very Mad to owning a 110 Laughing

So for you and most 90 owners its out with the tank (almost certainly)
My how I fixed it story is linked in the previous thread direction but here it is directly...

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic25866.html

Good Luck Thumbs Up SKIP
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html
Post #822493 31st Mar 2020 2:10pm
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Pacha



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Ok - bit of thread revival, but I am going to have to sort my breather pipe out. Whilst it has not split, it has gone very soft (suspect it has been done previously at some point) 2008 Puma 90. It is prone to collapsing and it feels Censored

Added complications are that I have to LR tow bar with the braces.

I have pondered for a few weeks now, but my OCD is getting the better of me!.

Options......

1. Pay to have it done - not going to happen unless it defeats me.

2. Cut a hole in the floor - very, very last resort.

3. Follow S4XKP's solution - a strong maybe.

4. Buy YRM aluminium guard/cradle and just cut the old one out - Plan A.

So, guard ordered today - will post pic's of the ordeal. Rgds.

Chris
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Supacat



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jst wrote:
Drop the tank and do it properly.


I'm thinking that the cut a hole solution is actually an enhancement over doing the the job "properly. The only thing I'd do differently is fit a hinge and T key lock to the top piece of metal and make it into an access/inspection port.

Can't say the idea is actually mine. I have exactly this arrangement on my ATMP and it works a treat. It is actually the only way to access the fuel tank for filling!

Going one stage further the whole floor panel could come out and be fixed back in as a deck/hatch arrangement. Again, I'd see that as an enhancement totally in keeping with the underlying design philosophy of the vehicle.
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macfrank



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Quote:
Going one stage further the whole floor panel could come out and be fixed back in as a deck/hatch arrangement.

Here's a swiss guy's how-to page:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=...Boden.html
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Supacat



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Thumbs Up - I definitely think that's the way to go:


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