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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18   
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Not yet.
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5th Mar 2020 9:11am |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 306 
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Sounds like air is getting into the fuel system.
Time for a new fuel filter. |
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5th Mar 2020 7:52pm |
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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18
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Fuel filter, housing and pipes replaced.
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5th Mar 2020 9:23pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226 
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fuel pump?
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5th Mar 2020 10:48pm |
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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18
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Fuel pump being investigated this morning.
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6th Mar 2020 11:22am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3666 
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fuel tank breather pipe blocked? DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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6th Mar 2020 9:31pm |
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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18
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She runs fine once started with a bit of quick start spray. She also cranks ok and will continue to turn over until the battery dies. She just won’t start. I would imagine fuel pressure must also be fine for her to run after a bit of quick start spray.
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8th Mar 2020 3:46pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226
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are the heaters/glow plugs working ok?
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8th Mar 2020 6:08pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226
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does it start ok once its warmed up?
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8th Mar 2020 7:05pm |
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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18
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Don’t know, but my gut feeling is that she is immobilised! I think it’s electrical possibly ECU/Alarm!
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9th Mar 2020 9:11pm |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 306
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Key fob battery flat?
Maybe try spare keys. |
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9th Mar 2020 10:41pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226
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Cant see how it is the immobiliser as it starts with Quick Start....... hope you get it sorted soon, ?I would be going mad having just bought the vehicle , have you contacted the person who sold it to you?
Good luck Rob |
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10th Mar 2020 12:45pm |
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| JimG Member Since: 01 Mar 2020 Location: North West Posts: 18
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Yep it’s being done under warranty! Moved on to a new garage now. They spent five hours on it yesterday but to no avail. They swapped out all the possible sensors but nothing. They now suspect it may be a stretched timing chain leading to a timing issue. The ECU is being swapped out on Friday. Can’t believe it’s that difficult! The fault is present all the to,e and it’s not even subtle! I heard these timing chains can cause starting problems. Has anyone any info on this? Cheers
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11th Mar 2020 2:16pm |
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| JOE_130 Member Since: 26 Nov 2014 Location: Chelmsford Posts: 105 
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I'd avoid use of easy start or quick start at all cost. If they're still using it as part of diagnosis make sure they stop - absolutely horrendous stuff when used on a modern engine.
Immobilisers on puma's on Defender will stop the engine even if it's already running. You might get it to cough and sound like it's going to catch occasionally when you crank but certainly wouldn't get it to run normally at any point. Things that can stop a Puma running... Lack of clean crank signal Lack of clean cam signal Cam/crank sychronisation within ECU Adequate fuel pressure (air lock should show up as inadequate rail pressure) Correct injector voltages/traces Everything else is tertiary. All the above should be easily readable/measurable using the right tools. Looking at this from a development engineering point of view, cam/crank sync and fuel pressure are the two main go to's and a LR dealer should be able to view them using dealership tools. If they asses which of the above isn't present, they should be able to be more methodical in their approach trying to find an "intelligence" based ECU problem or a physical failure rather than the dartboard diagnostics "change all the sensors". All the above is irrelevant if it's the original OEM warranty, sit back, enjoy your courtesy car and let them fix their own problem  |
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11th Mar 2020 6:30pm |
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