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Fatbaron



Member Since: 12 Mar 2016
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I've got the Optimal QR boss with the spinning security thing and a Momo wheel. Superb upgrade and wouldn't hesitate to fit again. Thumbs Up
Post #801719 11th Nov 2019 3:48am
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G4UJS



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Its an excellent security device...... my only problem is I bought a Momo Steering Wheel Quark 350 (14") and as I am tall I can no longer see the indicator lights or main beam light!!!

The momo steering wheel though does look the part and is very nice!

Regards

Rob
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Tim in Scotland



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Concur with all the above, great piece of kit, I also bought a Momo steering wheel with it - the smaller diameter steering wheel is welcome. Yes fitting the spinning BoS cover can be fiddly but now I have seen Sulisuli’s simple mod to assist with locating the pins I will do the same. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
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Post #801729 11th Nov 2019 9:00am
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strang



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
I have this and its a great set up. I also have the Momo Jet steering wheel. I would prefer to have something more similar to the original wheel, but there does not appear to be anything on the market.

Someone recently asked this same question on a facebook group. Someone responded that they had been able to break the Optimil lock set into the Orange security device. Having done this, they say they reported this to Optimil and they are redesigning the lock that is fitted - how true any of this is I do not know. Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond.....
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blackwolf



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And so misleading internet legends are borne....

I reported to Optimill (a long time ago now) that there was a way the original cylinder lock could be opened without a key as quickly as with one, without causing any damage. Optimill, not being locksmiths, were quite taken aback by this but immediately took the matter up with their lock supplier with the eventual result that a much better lock is now fitted.

Neither I nor Optimill has ever publicly disclosed the vulnerability, and I do not intend to, since there are plenty of the old type in use. It is however a feature of the lock and nothing to do with Optmill's design.

No lock is invulnerable and there are other ways that even the new ones can be overcome, but none as quick, silent, and non-destructive as the first vulnerability.

So that much is true, but it is old news and history, and I have never been near a Facebook group and certainly would never use one (I have an irrational hatred of Facebook, Twitter, etc, and all they represent). If someone is genuinely reporting this on a Facebook group then they're either trying to take credit for someone else's actions or are have "discovered" something that's been know for a long time!

I won't depress you by highlighting all the other Defender-related lock vulnerabilities that exist, except to say that none of the locks JLR used are any good, and few aftermarket security device locks are much better. Fortunately most villains have neither the time nor the skill to defeat them, but who needs to anyway when cordless drills and angle-grinders make the skill irrelevant.
Post #801867 11th Nov 2019 10:42pm
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Calder



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Sulisuli wrote:
Not sure if discomog posted that picture because he thinks the OP is taking the pi55 with his original question Rolling with laughter


Not sure why Sulisuli think i’m taking the pi55 by asking for advice but thanks everyone. Any views on flat v dished steering wheels and whether a dished wheel feels too far away from the indicators etc.
Post #801878 12th Nov 2019 7:23am
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X4CAC



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The old lock was changed at the end of last year and Optimill were changing any existing swivel locks to the new mechanism as requested. I know this as my original lock was faulty and was exchanged for free.

To the original OP I personally think this is a great security feature and is quick and simple to use - it may not be fool proof but security is about layers, the more the merrier and for me if I have one that takes no time to fit/remove then I know I have no excuse not to use it.
Post #801881 12th Nov 2019 8:14am
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LandRoverAnorak



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Calder wrote:
Sulisuli wrote:
Not sure if discomog posted that picture because he thinks the OP is taking the pi55 with his original question Rolling with laughter


Not sure why Sulisuli think i’m taking the pi55 by asking for advice but thanks everyone. Any views on flat v dished steering wheels and whether a dished wheel feels too far away from the indicators etc.

He doesn't. It was a joke because of the daft picture that discomog accidentally posted. Darren

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Post #801896 12th Nov 2019 9:38am
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X4SKP



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Anyone roaming around the various threads generally reading up
about a Quick Release Steering Wheel Boss and wondering if it's
either worth the money / the effort to change / the security benefit...
or all of the above, please read on.

I would recommend that you get your hands on a good example and then
just find a reason that makes sense to you to fit this to your Defender.

I have a good friend who has the Optimill offering + lockable 'cap'
all doing its best to secure a Twisted 110 that you really wouldn't
want to loose... it's an excellent bit of kit and I would not hesitate
to fit one if starting again.

I have the Snap-Off Boss which was fitted during my first week of ownership,
so coming up to 5 years now, 40K miles later, No play what so ever, probably
2-3 seconds to remove the steering wheel and store or to reengaged...
FANTASTIC... Thumbs Up

For me, one of many layers overall, but it's right up there in my top 3 of would
not be without security layers / products, and definitely my top visual + mechanical layer.

I genuinely don't understand why I don't see more Quick Release Steering Wheels
fitted to Defenders... Shocked
(I know that sounds a little 'preachy' so please don't give me a hard time Wink )


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Good Luck... SKIP
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Post #801905 12th Nov 2019 10:12am
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Sulisuli



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LandRoverAnorak wrote:
Calder wrote:
Sulisuli wrote:
Not sure if discomog posted that picture because he thinks the OP is taking the pi55 with his original question Rolling with laughter


Not sure why Sulisuli think i’m taking the pi55 by asking for advice but thanks everyone. Any views on flat v dished steering wheels and whether a dished wheel feels too far away from the indicators etc.

He doesn't. It was a joke because of the daft picture that discomog accidentally posted.


Thankyou Darren Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #801923 12th Nov 2019 11:55am
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strang



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blackwolf wrote:
And so misleading internet legends are borne....


Indeed - I can't even remember which group it was posted in as I am in so many. I still think that it is an excellent product though, and something that would definitely stop the opportunist thief. Euro-Leafing to infinity and beyond.....
Post #801973 12th Nov 2019 7:48pm
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Sulisuli



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Have you brought one Calder? You won’t regret it Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
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2000 XS TD5 90
Post #802395 15th Nov 2019 9:28pm
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jst



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Does anyone do qr for a standard oe steering wheel Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
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Post #802399 15th Nov 2019 10:10pm
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LandRoverAnorak



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I've never seen one and it'd be difficult to engineer without pushing it further towards the driver. Darren

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Post #802401 15th Nov 2019 10:24pm
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Procta



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One of the 1st upgrades I did to my replacement defender and I haven't looked back at all. I have even seen another defender parked up with one too, so that just says it all now. If I do get the chance to speak to another defender owner I will push the idea on to them. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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