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Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1342

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Output shaft failure, Forum Survey
For survey results of 168 vehicles, as of June 2019, go to page 9 of this thread.

Hello All Puma Defender owners, please take part in this survey in an effort to understand the extent of the problem with gearbox output shaft failure. Even if you've not had a problem, we need to know how long the 'good' ones last!

This is a survey you will get useful info from. It will be on the forum so everyone here can see the data and interpret it for their own use. Discussion on the results will be welcome.
Please answer the following 4 or 6 simple questions, and feel free to add comments.
Thanks,
Jason

1, vehicle year of manufacture
2, engine type 2.4 or 2.2
3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N)
4, vehicle milage at first shaft failure, or current milage on the original shaft if still running.

If the shaft has previously failed, please answer 5 & 6.

5, Has an Ashcroft modified part has been fitted? (Y/N)
6, vehicle milage at the second failure, or milage if still running.

Repeat questions 5 & 6 for more than two shaft failures.


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Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1342

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
To start us off,

1, vehicle year of manufacture 2015
2, engine type 2.4 or 2.2, 2.2
3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N) Y
4, vehicle milage at first shaft failure, or current milage on the original shaft if still running. 18 000 miles

If the shaft has previously failed, please answer 5 & 6.

5, Has an Ashcroft modified part has been fitted? (Y/N) Not applicable
6, vehicle milage at the second failure, or milage if still running. Not applicable

Comment. Still on original shaft at 3.5 years old, 18000 miles, no noticeable driveline noise or issues.
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rockster57



Member Since: 15 Nov 2014
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 937

United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
1. 2008
2. 2.4
3. Don't know. I havent changed in during my 3 year ownership
4. No failure (as far as I am aware) now 31,000miles
Post #717246 11th Jul 2018 10:44pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2255

Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
1. 2007
2. 2.4
3. Y
4. 55k miles Puma 110" SW

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Oz Paul



Member Since: 12 Jul 2018
Location: Perth
Posts: 1

Australia 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Fuji White
1. 2012
2. 2.2l
3. Yes
4. 140,000km (87,000 miles)

Daily driver, never gets pushed too hard on or off road. My clutch is rattling so when that gets replaced I will probably get an Ashcroft output shaft fitted.
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zsd-puma



Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
1. 2010
2. 2.4 (obviously)
3. N
4. Shaft didn't fail I replaced it with an Ashcroft kit when the clutch was done at 82'000miles as a precaution
5. Yes
6. hasn't failed again, at 87'000
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rtg



Member Since: 25 Jun 2014
Location: UA
Posts: 10

Austria 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black
1, 2009
2, 2.4
3, No, shaft was replaced at about 140.000km while replacing the clutch. It showed signs of wear.
4, -
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justinp



Member Since: 24 Jun 2016
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 167

United Kingdom 
1, 2012
2, 2.2
3, Y
4, 50K miles Now gone - 2012 2.2 110 DC XS
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hornet



Member Since: 04 Jan 2010
Location: Western Europe
Posts: 310

1, vehicle year of manufacture: 2009
2, engine type 2.4 or 2.2: 2.4
3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N): Yes
4, vehicle milage at first shaft failure, or current milage on the original shaft if still running: 137.000 miles (220.000km)
Post #717261 12th Jul 2018 6:37am
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skoller



Member Since: 27 Oct 2011
Location: australia
Posts: 7

2009
2.4l
no
100,000k shaft replaced with Ashcroft. On inspection of original shaft, replacement was just in time.
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Keith5



Member Since: 27 May 2016
Location: Scotland
Posts: 352

United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black
1, vehicle year of manufacture: 2012
2, engine type 2.4 or 2.2: 2.2
3, is the Defender still running with the original output shaft? (Y/N): No
4, vehicle mileage at first shaft failure, or current mileage on the original shaft if still running: 35,000miles

5, Has an Ashcroft modified part has been fitted? (Y/N) No (warranty replacement)
6, vehicle mileage at the second failure, or mileage if still running. 45,000 (still running) Keith
Post #717266 12th Jul 2018 7:57am
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ian series 1



Member Since: 17 Nov 2014
Location: south
Posts: 3127

United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
2011
2.4
No
Failed at 85,000 replaced with genuine part.

2008 (mine)
2.4
No
Replaced along with clutch at 90,000 (grease nipple fitted to coupling)
Genuine part.

2015
2.2
No
Failed around 27,000 replaced with genuine part.

2010
2.4
No
Failed at 53,000 replaced with genuine part.

2010
2.4
No
(Rusty but ok) 62,000 replaced with clutch, genuine part.


2009
2.4
No
(rusty but ok) 59,000 replaced with clutch, genuine part.


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Post #717267 12th Jul 2018 8:12am
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hank



Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2217

Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
1. 2007
2. 2.4
3. N
4. Shaft didn't fail I replaced it with an Ashcroft kit as a precaution when the clutch was done at 75,000 miles
5. Yes
6. Current mileage 79,000
Post #717268 12th Jul 2018 8:21am
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meeerrrk



Member Since: 12 Feb 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 548

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey
1, 2010
2, 2.4
3, No
4, 59k
5, No
6, 60K My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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Fernando



Member Since: 25 Oct 2017
Location: CABA
Posts: 84

Argentina 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Bonatti Grey
1, 2008
2, 2.4
3, Si
4, 220.000 Km (136.701 Millas)
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