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mk1collector



Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
Silicon can play havoc if you ever need anything painting under warranty etc
Post #267241 16th Sep 2013 6:01pm
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Cakey



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
Location: Cheshire
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Webasto , never had a frozen car or lock
Post #267254 16th Sep 2013 7:44pm
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Skye_Rover



Member Since: 30 Aug 2013
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Scotland 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Cairns Blue
Frozen locks are a problem if you live in a place that is wet and windy in the winter - something about the Defender push buttons seems to capture freezing rain between the moving parts. All vehicles that I service get the silicon spray treatment to the door seals each year (I live in a high-ozone area near the coast, so rubber and plastic deterioration is something wicked) and silicon grease to the push buttons around their periphery.

No other car I have come across seems as susceptible to freezing rain causing the push buttons to freeze. The size of gaps betwixt button and handle don't help. This is one area where the Defender was a retrograde step to the Sers. Landies, as I have to keep a Sers.III with lift-up handles on standby in the winter for this specific reason. Never had a problem getting into a Sers., just climb through the door gaps! Rolling with laughter Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Post #267313 16th Sep 2013 11:21pm
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Cakey



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I imagine the dead midges lube the seals quite nicely Very Happy
Post #267402 17th Sep 2013 1:45pm
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timbar



Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Skye_Rover wrote:
No other car I have come across seems as susceptible to freezing rain causing the push buttons to freeze. The size of gaps betwixt button and handle don't help. This is one area where the Defender was a retrograde step to the Sers. Landies, as I have to keep a Sers.III with lift-up handles on standby in the winter for this specific reason. Never had a problem getting into a Sers., just climb through the door gaps! Rolling with laughter


Guess the mechanism's not amenable to retrofitting lifting handles to a Defender?

Looking forward to the first winter .. will stock up and see what happens Smile 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #267413 17th Sep 2013 3:08pm
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Skye_Rover



Member Since: 30 Aug 2013
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Scotland 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Cairns Blue
Not without a major bit of cutting to the door skins. I have learned to appreciate as well the luxury of not having a howling gale whistling through the door at waist height when you are motoring along on a long journey - one of the many problems on the Sers. due to corrosion where the door handle aperture holds water. Just the same way as my Defender has rusted on the rear door!!!! Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Post #267446 17th Sep 2013 5:45pm
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Skye_Rover



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Scotland 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Cairns Blue
Cakey wrote:
I imagine the dead midges lube the seals quite nicely Very Happy


They certainly fill the gaps nicely Laughing Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Post #267447 17th Sep 2013 5:47pm
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jimbob7



Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
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The door seals are somewhat exposed,no wonder they freeze so easily.FYI, I've always used Halfords own brand silicon spray,used it on mi motorbikes through the winter commute,I tried a few different brands before I settled on Halfords, by far it was the longest lasting,just don't get it on your tyres or brakes and has been mentioned, you'll get lynched if you contaminate a bodyshop with silicon.
Post #267466 17th Sep 2013 7:00pm
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timbar



Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
From the AA (http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/seasonal/winter-checklist.html)

Quote:
Locks and door seals – stop doors freezing shut with a thin coat of polish or Vaseline on rubber door seals. A squirt of water dispersant (WD-40) in locks will help stop them freezing.


The vaseline (or polish, for that matter) doesn't seem like such a bright idea, but hey.

Is it paranoid to take the seals out before spraying them with silicone spray? 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #267526 17th Sep 2013 9:19pm
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Skye_Rover



Member Since: 30 Aug 2013
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Scotland 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Cairns Blue
If you are worried about silicon oil getting everywhere, spray a bit on a cloth and then use that to wipe onto the seal, carefully avoiding the paintwork. Much less hassle than trying to fit the seals back in the door aperture again! Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.
Post #267560 17th Sep 2013 11:16pm
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jimbob7



Member Since: 06 Jul 2013
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This stuff is highly recommended by detailers for freezing door rubbers in teh winter,I've never used it tho.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360598818691?ssP...1438.l2649
Post #267720 18th Sep 2013 7:24pm
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david mitchell



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Ireland 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
anybody use this? any good feedback? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360598818691?ssP...007wt_1255
Post #268132 20th Sep 2013 1:15pm
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timbar



Member Since: 30 Jul 2013
Location: Milton Keynes
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Same thing as jimbob7 I think --

2 x Einszett Gummi Pflege Rubber Care Stick 100ml - Rubber Treatment - Roll On

So -- yes, apparently thumbs up from detailers? 2009 110 XS Station Wagon
Post #268134 20th Sep 2013 1:19pm
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