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Cheshire110



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Rear Crossmember Coating/Paint/Rustproofing..
so my rear crossmember looks like this...


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and i want to touch it up. Im at my uncles house in a few days, and he has all the masking/spraying/priming eqpmt needed and im wondering whats the best thing to do?

Ill waxoyl the inside and sand back a bit, any recommendations on paint?

was thinking stonechip or is that too 'soft' - ive also never seen how the finish is over a large flat area?

hammerite metal paint maybe?

PS. Is it common that rear X members have 'thinning' paint? seen a few around.

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Re: Rear Crossmember Coating/Paint/Rustproofing..
Quite common as the finish is so thin, it usually responds to a wipe over with one of the waxy rust inhibitors but the effect wears off after a time. Personally I wouldn't use stone chip on a late model Defender X member, nor would I soil it with Hammerite which is quite a brittle finish once it dries. My choice would be for refinishing in a decent satin black which will look stock and professional. Steve.
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When you say satin black do you mean just a halfords aerosol? Would you use a primer? Cheers, David
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I've got a litre tin, compressor, masking tape etc so that's what I'd use but if you don't have the paint a decent rattle can or two will do the job. I would rub down, prime then topcoat. Steve.
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Yes, sounds like a good plan! Cheers for advice Smile Cheers, David
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bear100 wrote:
It's still covered by land rovers 6 year anticorrosion warranty Whistle Mines in at the moment having a few things done including new mud flap brackets
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I've had those done too, but don't see what they can do about the Xmember? Has anyone had it done under corrosion warranty? Cheers, David
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Don't know about the Landrover warranty but I would do it like this

1. Remove tow-bar.
2. Lightly rub all areas that you are going to paint with a red scotch brite, soaked in water or panel wipe (provides a key for primer).
3. Mask of all areas you don't wish to paint or get overspray on
4. Use a degreaser (panel wipe) to clean all areas to be painted.
5. Apply a couple of coats of either red oxide or zinc oxide (acts as primer and helps with corrosion protection. (allow 10 mins between coats)).
6. Apply 4 coats of matt or gloss, (your own preference) black aerosol paint or more if you need to, remember light coats are better so you don't get paint sag. ( pay the extra for good quality aerosol as cheap ones contain less paint pigment).

Almost forgot, paints like hammerite are okay, but don't tend to spray as well as cellulose type aerosols, and once on can be a pig to repaint, as they tend to react with almost anything, even hammerite.

Don't forget the dust mask or better still a respirator. Rolling with laughter

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Post #256100 3rd Aug 2013 11:22pm
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I used this satin black spray ( used two cans) which I got from B&Q. I used various grades of wet n dry to remove deep scratches and used the same make primer. Took approx half a day to do. When I got my Landy about a year ago the dealer had done a tarting up job on it with it peeling off in about 6 months and overspray onto the body work.
I removed the handles and sprayed them separately.

I will do the front bumper when I have some spare time.
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[quote="Sonarmender"]Don't know about the Landrover warranty but I would do it like this

1. Remove tow-bar.
2. Lightly rub all areas that you are going to paint with a red scotch brite, soaked in water or panel wipe (provides a key for primer).
3. Mask of all areas you don't wish to paint or get overspray on
4. Use a degreaser (panel wipe) to clean all areas to be painted.
5. Apply a couple of coats of either red oxide or zinc oxide (acts as primer and helps with corrosion protection. (allow 10 mins between coats)).
6. Apply 4 coats of matt or gloss, (your own preference) black aerosol paint or more if you need to, remember light coats are better so you don't get paint sag. ( pay the extra for good quality aerosol as cheap ones contain less paint pigment).

Almost forgot, paints like hammerite are okay, but don't tend to spray as well as cellulose type aerosols, and once on can be a pig to repaint, as they tend to react with almost anything, even hammerite.

Don't forget the dust mask or better still a respirator. Rolling with laughter

Stand back and admire a job well done. Thumbs Up

Any probs you can always PM me.[/quote

Very detailed, thanks! Will follow advice and post results on here Cheers, David
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WelshGas wrote:
My 90 is now over 3 years old and done 38,000. All I do is wipe the rear cross member and front bumper with ACF50 each time I wash it. Still in good condition and NO rust, as yet. Bow down


No rust on mine either, I just want to get a more even paint finish and protect it some more. For some reason LR don't seem to have painted some xmembers very well, and it stands out on my black 110. Cheers, David
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What's the stone chip like ada as I was going to have mine done when it goes in to have a few scratches done not sure what the best finish is.
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