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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6510   
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The only CAN bus is between the engine ECU and the instrument pack, the lights are definitely not controlled by it!!
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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10th May 2013 1:48pm |
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| fusionfanatic Member Since: 11 Apr 2013 Location: north norfolk Posts: 40
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Even so is there an issue due to the way the vehicle checks the bulbs for failure which means they wont work?
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10th May 2013 1:49pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6510
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Plenty on here running LED lamps, suggest a search and a read
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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10th May 2013 1:52pm |
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| macduff Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: NE Posts: 117
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No bulb checks on the defender that I've seen on my 08 110. Except for those done by eye of course... 2023 110 P400e |
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10th May 2013 1:53pm |
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| fusionfanatic Member Since: 11 Apr 2013 Location: north norfolk Posts: 40
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That's interesting, The guy in there was showing me all the wipac LED NAS style replacement lights and said they have had problems with them as I mentioned, I don't have one that age either but Just thought I'd ask the question, did a quick forum search. Again its not like its an issue I am posed with directly just thought I would ask the question. I will clarify next time I speak to them. |
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10th May 2013 1:59pm |
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| Kitoper Member Since: 07 Dec 2012 Location: Geneva Posts: 204 
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Same for me, I have installed RDX led lights for my Defender and have had no issues on the Brake and parking lights. For the indicators, you will need to change the relay which is included in the package I purchased from BoltonBits. [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-RDX-LED-STANDARD-SIZE-Light-lamps-Relay-ONLY-Defender-Td5-Tdci-Red-Clear-/390549817265?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5aee9547b1[url] Click image to enlarge[/url] |
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10th May 2013 2:00pm |
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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478 
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Xtech comes with LED's as standard, there is no issue with them
 The only problem i have ever come across was on an older vehicle were we fitted a set of led sidelights and the wires needed swapping over so red went to black and vise versa  CSK Automotive
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10th May 2013 2:09pm |
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| william8 Member Since: 03 Apr 2013 Location: Motherwell Posts: 259  
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Would i be right in saying that the lights/wipers/central locking and stereo etc, are still wired just like they used to be back in the 80's. Because i haven't seen much difference. I have a c regi and its the exact same wiring at the back than my 08 puma
 Its just the engine that gets changed. William |
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10th May 2013 2:34pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6510
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Yes William, pretty much
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10th May 2013 2:37pm |
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| william8 Member Since: 03 Apr 2013 Location: Motherwell Posts: 259
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Well at least the laws of electronics haven't changed since then
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10th May 2013 3:34pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 19677
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Probably because the LED's are / were one way polarity and will not work reversed. An incandescent (filmament type) bulb will light up regardless of polarity whether correct or reversed. My interior LED's I'm putting in are like that. Diesel$ Live$ Matter. ⛽️🛢️👨🔧🧰⚙️ RED, WHITE & BOOST! 🇬🇧 |
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10th May 2013 5:35pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816 
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Correct about Xtech (and SVX, FIRE/ICE, etc.) but not the turn signals. On all those the turn signals ex factory remain incandescent 21W bulbs. Some (me ) have changed those to same looking LEDs which you can buy for instance from Mobilecentre. In the case where you make this change, you indeed have to change the turn signal relay by one from either Mobilecentre or by one from RDX BoltonBits. The latter as a matter of fact is a more sophisticated relay as it has the audible signal plus a few more advantages. In any way, no '06 onward Defenders should have any trouble running LED lamps. My SVX is a '09 model and I have LEDs virtually all over and they work a treat You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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10th May 2013 8:56pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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what do LR use on Xtech etc for LEDs? Are they RDX? BM52
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10th May 2013 9:16pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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They use these... made by Le Perei, which believe is a UK manufacturer. The pic below shows them after I have changed the standard bulb powered turn signal by a Le Perei LED of the same series as the other LEDs Land Rover use on the SVX, ICE, Xtech, etc.
Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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10th May 2013 9:21pm |
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