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Tp81



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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Gear crunches going from 2nd to 3rd when cold
No matter how slow I take this gear change or how firm my foot is on the clutch, when the defender is cold and just started it always has an initial crunch transferring from 2 to 3rd.

Does anyone have a similar issue?
Post #206967 30th Jan 2013 10:34pm
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Captain Speaking



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2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
Me too! I just accept it as part of the fun Laughing
Post #206995 30th Jan 2013 11:30pm
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Shax



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Mine has been doing it for 2 1/2 years... The stealers all say "They do it, live with it..."... Gotta love the MT82!! ... ,-------,
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Post #206998 30th Jan 2013 11:37pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Double-declutch.
Post #206999 30th Jan 2013 11:38pm
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Tp81



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2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Love it.

I will try the double-declutch tomorrow.

It's almost like a quick wake up kick and then it performs beautifully.
Post #207008 31st Jan 2013 12:09am
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
I looked for a solution years ago and came across Evo oil sold on the Difflock website...might be worth looking into...

http://forum.difflock.com/viewtopic.php?p=...db8e58cc00

A bit old, but the oil is still sold.

Not tried it, but my gearbox is a bit rough on the 2nd/3rd change too, so need to see if I can improve things.

Cheers

Simon
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bm52



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
is this problem on the Puma or the R380 gearbox. I had this problem on my 300tdi which was cured by a gearbox oil change and slowing the change a tad.

thankfully my Puma box is very smooth. BM52
Post #207011 31st Jan 2013 12:20am
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Dobby



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Give the gear stick a bif of a left-right waggle just as it goes into 3rd gear. If you push 'straight' into 3rd it'll crunch, but if you shimmy it in you might be ok. No idea why, but it's worked for me on several different vehicles.
Post #207140 31st Jan 2013 7:05pm
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XS Pete



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England 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Having watched one of my Chrismas DVDs last night (Mark Evans - a 4x4 is born), which included a wander round Ashcroft Transmissions, and a good look at a couple of gearboxes which had been sectioned so that you could see what was going on inside, at least I now know exactly which bits it is which crunch!

Pete
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yorky



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black
blackwolf wrote:
Double-declutch.


he he, I remember my grandad telling me about double de clutching when he drove an AEC double decker bus in the 1960's. Dont you just love the way LR have evolved! Rolling with laughter 90 XS
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Post #207362 1st Feb 2013 5:22pm
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rossy



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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
mine was the same until I changed the gearbox oil for Castrol SMXS (now rebranded Syntrans multivehicle 75-90 - same stuff though). I also learned - through forum advice - to change gear slowly and deliberately Thumbs Up
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lukev01



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England 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Even modern cars will benefit from double declutching to smooth the gear changes. I'm sad enough to do it on the daily driver - it has got to last a few more years!
Big Cry
On a Series LR, you don't even need to use the clutch if you get the revs right Wink 1970 Series 2A 88"
Post #207578 2nd Feb 2013 1:37pm
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sweepc



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I have only had my car for a few weeks now and I too have this, I have tried the double-declutch and it does work but I just wondered how everybody else is getting o with this problem?
Post #242828 11th Jun 2013 7:32pm
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tazmarkuk



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England 2000 Defender 110 Td5 HT Chawton White
R380 box ?
I had very similar issues 2 winters ago, replaced gear oil with EVO from Difflock, never had the problem since
Post #242834 11th Jun 2013 7:50pm
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sweepc



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Re: R380 box ?
[quote="tazmarkuk"]I had very similar issues 2 winters ago, replaced gear oil with EVO from Difflock, never had the problem since[/quote]

Mine is a 2.2 Puma, only a few weeks old so im guessing its the MT82 box?
Post #242842 11th Jun 2013 8:08pm
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