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| Japseroony Member Since: 02 Jan 2008 Location: North East England Posts: 843   
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Are you sure it’s a 2.4 and not the 2.2 as the 2.4 was replaced as an engine in about 2012 ish?
From my point of view whilst the “old” defender was a great vehicle it was noisy, slow, uncomfortable and a poor long distance driver so beware of the “rose tinted” glasses effect  Gas, Grass Or Ass - Nobody Rides For Free
"UNDERSTEER" ----is when you hit the fence with the front of the car. "OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car. "HORSEPOWER" ----is how fast you hit the fence. "TORQUE" -----------is how far you take the fence with you. |
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1st Jun 2024 4:23pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2237  
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I have a 90 Puma HT that whilst doesn't get used often has done some long distances like Newcastle to Gatwick in a day towing 2ton…..
Maybe not quite as ‘nice’ a place as my T5 LWB but is certainly not slow or noisy?? |
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1st Jun 2024 8:46pm |
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| martinf Member Since: 30 Nov 2020 Location: Sussex Posts: 106
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In the 1980's I had a V8 90 CSW. I remember it could only do about 100 miles on a tank of petrol so think I prefer my P300 110 which can do more like 400 miles to a tank full.
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2nd Jun 2024 7:44am |
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| carrotbay Member Since: 18 Aug 2013 Location: Northants, UK Posts: 707 
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I moved from a 2008 CSW to a new D300 110. I had it for a few months but never got attached to it and quickly realised that whilst it was a great car, I was never going to be able to enjoy it as much as I did the old 110.
Luckily I hadn’t sold my old 110 so I went back to that and sold the new Defender. Recently, to make the Puma a little easier to live with and because I had some engine and gearbox issues, I’ve dropped in a BMW M57 engine and 6 speed auto box. I can’t see me ever selling this now as it does all I need it to and more. (Until ULEZ comes in everywhere and I can’t drive it anymore!) 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 8HP70X |
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2nd Jun 2024 10:38am |
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| BrickBox Member Since: 05 Oct 2021 Location: Wales Posts: 965  
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I think this is where it’s important to decide on a conversion that’ll be ULEZ compliant. I believe the petrol (B57?) is compliant once registered? 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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2nd Jun 2024 11:29am |
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| Ryderoo Member Since: 28 Aug 2015 Location: South Oxfordshire Posts: 1666 
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My last old defender was a then new 2015 90 Urban Truck, it was really a third vehicle for the family.
I do regret selling it and would have another one tomorrow, as a weekend vehicle Mind you I have been Defenderless since March 1st, as I part ex’d the hard top for an XS edition which has now been cancelled by JLR, as they have stopped building the 24 model!!! With no option of an XS in the more expensive 25my line up. But as the OP asks yes I would definitely like to have another, great fun Cheers Simon I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you 1990 110 TD5 county, my first Land Rover - gone 2012 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2014 Discovery 4 XS SDV6 - gone 2015 Evoque SD4 dynamic - Wife’s - gone 2015 Urban Truck 90 XS Santorini Black Hard Top - Reluctantly gone 2020 Discovery 5 Eiger Grey 3.0 SE - gone March 24 2021 Defender S D250 Santorini Black 110 HT - gone March 24 2023 Evoque P300e SE wife’s current vehicle |
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2nd Jun 2024 3:22pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3140
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The "new" old Defender l have been offered as a swap for my 2022 Defender is actually a 2008 110 XS SW. lt's done under 5,000 miles.
Well, it's not exactly a swap, as some money would come my way as well, but after l pay tax on the sale of my 2022 Defender it ends up as pretty much an exchange. The 2008 is the earlier 2.4 TDCi and reviews of that engine are mixed. Also it's only Euro 4 although it's classed as a car, so exempt from some of the LEZ's Road tax is £700, effectively £60 per month. |
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2nd Jun 2024 4:17pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 823 
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Would I trade our P400 for an old Defender…. No, however we are thinking of possibly trading in
the wife’s 14 year old RRS for an ex Aussie Army LWB Perentie, they come with a 3.9 diesel from Isuzu as standard.. looking at this when we get back from our Euro tour.. plenty available as well Driven plenty of series 2’s in the Army.. so not giving up all the luxury yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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2nd Jun 2024 4:38pm |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3140
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Was looking at a nice condition ex military Defender 90 yesterday. They're very basic but would be great as a second vehicle.
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2nd Jun 2024 5:21pm |
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| zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 823
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Learned to drive and passed my test in a SWB lightweight Airportable when based in Blandford, the SWB (90ish) was more agile than the LWB utility, FFR etc I found, the Perentie though will be a LWB yet another pommie bar steward down under MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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2nd Jun 2024 8:58pm |
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| TexasRover Member Since: 24 Nov 2022 Location: Paris Posts: 1259  
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I recall there was a discussion here earlier about if you could show up for your driving test in a Series Land Rover. The conclusion was: probably no, even though it is a road worthy vehicle.
In most places in Europe you can only do the test in a driving school car with the dual peddles etc. |
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3rd Jun 2024 7:52am |
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| lightning Member Since: 23 Apr 2009 Location: High Peak, Derbyshire Posts: 3140
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Just reading my old thread from a year ago!
l haven't swapped the new Defender for an old model, although my local LR specialist keeps tempting me with late model Puma XS 110's (they've currently got three in their showroom) My 2022 Defender is still holding on to its value and has been completely trouble free. The Under 5,000 mile 2007 Defender 2.4 110 XS is actually still for sale, l almost pulled the trigger on it in December 2024 but l had an inspection done and the chassis doesn't look great. Well not for £40,000 anyway. The tax implications of selling my 2022 Commercial aren't as bad as l thought. Will l ever swap it for another Puma? l don't know. l love the old Defender and will definitely have another one day that's for sure. Pictures l was sent of the 5,000 mile 2007 Defender chassis.  Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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6th May 2025 8:14am |
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| A11GEO Member Since: 01 May 2025 Location: Rhoose Posts: 4
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I’d like to add a 90 truck cab or Hi Cap to the collection but not swap 😃
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7th May 2025 12:39pm |
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| Muehae Member Since: 17 Jun 2023 Location: Erding Posts: 28 
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What was the question? Would you go back to an old Defender?
No, thanks! |
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7th May 2025 12:44pm |
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