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ruben



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No, I wouldn't go back because I not was there, and perhaps I can't give an opinion…Although for work, I have driven it many times, and I've always thought they were magnificent and wonderful cars to see and admire, but not to own... in that sense, it's never seemed like an incredible car to me, or even a desirable one …I must say that I have the new one precisely because it is another story even though it shares its name…To give a clue, I come from the Discovery world…but I will not deny that the new one is worthy of such a legendary name.….thats is what I think and Im must to say sorry if I offend someone!! Defender 110 SE I6 D250 23MY
ExDiscovery 3 TDV6 SE


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Post #1067224 7th May 2025 12:52pm
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Munchie



Member Since: 31 Oct 2024
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I had a 2016 90 XS with all the trimmings which we bought when it was 4 years old as we wanted to try the iconic car. We loved the looks, hated the ride, steering was vague and it was antiquated to drive. We sold it for a slight profit because we were worried about it rotting in rust and getting stolen. The new Defenders are a modern car, lack the character and charm of the old one, but i wouldn't go back and i love "classic cars".
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Chicken Drumstick



Member Since: 17 Aug 2020
Location: Near MK
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Re: Would you go back to an old Defender?
lightning wrote:
Question for those who previously owned the old model and changed it for a new one.

Would you ever go back to the old one? l've got someone offering me almost a brand new Defender 2.4 XS 110 SW (under 5,000 miles) in exchange for my 2022 90 Commercial.

I am not actually concerned about the financial aspect, l think in the long term it would be pretty much equal between keeping the new one and taking the old one.

Values have definitely dropped for the "Puma" Defender. There was a time when the best ones were selling, or at least being advertised at over £50,000.

lt comes down to which one l would rather spend every day driving, in my business. I have to say the "new" old Defender is tempting!! But l have to be sure l don't let my heart rule my head. Road tax is £700 and the 2.4 is an unknown quantity for me. l've only ever had TD5's.


I've only driven new Defenders, not owned one.

If you like what the old model offers, then sure, why not.

But like many discussions we've had on here and other forums you are on. I truly believe the new model is a different kind of vehicle aimed at a different use in a different market segment.


I'd paraphrase your question a bit like saying, should I swap a 2022 Focus ST for an S1 Elise. Both very good vehicles, with a degree of cross over, but ultimately not intended for exact same use & experience.

If you can live with what an old Defender offers (you have prior experience with a traditional Defender), then it will offer rewards and things the new model can't. But it comes with heavy compromises in other areas.

Observationally, as you've been posting on and off about getting rid of your new Defender for a good while now, I'd suggest that despite the things it does well, it just isn't hitting the mark for you in some way. So maybe a change is in order. Smile
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Chicken Drumstick



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Munchie wrote:
I had a 2016 90 XS with all the trimmings which we bought when it was 4 years old as we wanted to try the iconic car. We loved the looks, hated the ride, steering was vague and it was antiquated to drive. We sold it for a slight profit because we were worried about it rotting in rust and getting stolen. The new Defenders are a modern car, lack the character and charm of the old one, but i wouldn't go back and i love "classic cars".

Ride and steering should have been fine on the old 90 tbh.... they easily ride better than most small hatchbacks.
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plumpmoose



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I have both!

Td5 90 csw and lrd90 hse (23my). Local stuff always jump in the old one. Longer journeys that might exceed 40 mph then the new one gets the nod.

They are so different, but after a while the similar things are very very similar.
Post #1067229 7th May 2025 2:18pm
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bynxy



Member Since: 08 Feb 2022
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We have had 2 puma 90's and loved them for what they were, would I go back to them yes but as a second car as a bit of fun they don't even compare to the L663 defender completely different level of refinement and love it as a daily drive especially on the long trips
Post #1070356 26th Jun 2025 12:48pm
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lrFFM



Member Since: 28 Sep 2017
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Germany 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
I kept my Puma 90. So no need to go back. Smile
But I will sell my New Defender and go back to a RRS or RR. I miss the elegance of the Range Rovers.
Post #1070359 26th Jun 2025 1:54pm
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Mouta



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Nope.
Post #1070581 30th Jun 2025 9:32am
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fogbank



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I’ve not had a new Defender but I’ve had various newer Range Rovers, in a heartbeat I’d have a TD5 again or a 300TDI over any of the newer JLR ones I’ve owned.

I hate the size and complexity of the new ones, the only areas where the Range Rovers win was on the motorway, but if I was doing major miles I’d have something like a V6 Cayenne 957 over either.
Post #1070597 30th Jun 2025 4:49pm
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lightning



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You could always buy a nice TD5 90 as a second vehicle. l
would, but have nowhere to put it with two vehicles and a caravan already on the drive, and my boat in the garage.
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BrickBox



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Wales 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
A classic Defender inc a Puma is a vehicle you can keep for life and it will make it to being Tax & Mot exempt (if the privilege is not taken away from us) I can’t see any new Defender making it to being a classic vehicle. 2008 2.4 110 Utility Station Wagon XS.
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ruben



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Spain 

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