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| double cab happy Member Since: 01 Jun 2009 Location: merseyside Posts: 573   
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as most have said, the front end is the real problem for me, i can't believe that a company that can create such compicated vehicals as the disco 4 or range rover, couldn't re-engineer the defender to make it cheeper to build an pass the american laws, as a previous poster said, jeep keep that piece of c**p in production and it still has some of its family looks,
i mean, how hard would it be to get a monocock shell to follow the same lines as the bulk head and roof line of the defender, then stretch it at the back to fit the new longer platforms and give the back seat passengers some room, if the body had to be wider give use a little more elbow room, or if they could keep the same widht then all the better, main thing keep the controls inside driver selectable. |
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3rd Sep 2011 7:26am |
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| NinetyTD4 Member Since: 22 Apr 2011 Location: North Posts: 397  
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No Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
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10th Sep 2011 5:12pm |
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| dilukabey Member Since: 17 May 2011 Location: Sri Lanka Posts: 173 
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Can you called it a defender? there is no hardy tough rugged look at all! Just another show piece... oh dear.... Shame on Land rover!
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11th Sep 2011 8:05am |
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| Nidge Member Since: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Kildare Ireland Posts: 809  
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Hate it,
Cant believe 26% on here voted for it.... Land rover your way off. We don't want it...... let all the trendy types who live in urban jungles buy the nissan Juke....they dont need a land rover 
" Simplicity is beauty in itself "...... long live the Defender as we know it ... 
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11th Sep 2011 10:13am |
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| Nidge Member Since: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Kildare Ireland Posts: 809
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Hate it,
Cant believe 26% on here voted for it.... Land rover your way off. We don't want it...... let all the trendy types who live in urban jungles buy the nissan Juke....they dont need a land rover
" Simplicity is beauty in itself "...... long live the Defender as we know it ...
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11th Sep 2011 10:14am |
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| rossy Member Since: 29 Nov 2010 Location: Co. Roscommon Posts: 1296 
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not fussed about it either way really. If anything it will make the current Defender even more unique and desirable as the last of a long line. Which is great but mines not for sale. Ever !
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11th Sep 2011 5:32pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903 
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As it's own model it would be alright. But as a Defender replacement, nah.
I always thought the Defender replacement would be something along the lines of when the the 90 and the 110 replaced the Series 3. Very different, yet, the same. Don't think it's going to happen though.  |
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12th Sep 2011 7:33pm |
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| twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 652  
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It's being 'unveiled' tomorrow morning. Given how negative the feedback has been (not just on here, pretty much the whole motoring press is fairly lukewarm about it), I was half expecting them to pull it and go back to the drawing board... we'll see.
Maybe those first two promo shots were actually just a cracking wind-up  |
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12th Sep 2011 7:53pm |
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| philmorgan62 Member Since: 13 Oct 2011 Location: HAY ON WYE Posts: 5 
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dont like it. It looks like a cross between a disco and a freelander. Cant see a farmer driving one of these around the fields As someone said in a few mags.Have Jlr lost the plot or gone mad. Will there be pickups vans etc etc, will there be places for add ons like pto drives pumps etc.Looking at it might just as well bye a disco
I think it is a bad day for the defender. |
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16th Oct 2011 12:34am |
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| Sith Member Since: 10 Oct 2011 Location: Perth W.A Posts: 13 
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it has just re enforced my opinion that once my 1997 300tdi gets old .. new motor , new gear box , diffs rebuilt , transfer rebuild .. new seats some panel and paint and good for another 25 years ..... no electrics .... and for under $20k its a new car still with all the modification I need and want .
I certainly wouldn't be in a hurry to hand out my hard earnt money for a plastic electronic not off road/expedition friendly pile o poo . The g4 will have to have such an entourage of support vehicles for it  Knickers , not the best thing in the world ... but right next to the best thing in the world |
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16th Oct 2011 2:56am |
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| MacDefender Member Since: 17 Aug 2011 Location: Caxias do Sul Posts: 16  
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Simply a more expensive Kia Soul....nothing else....
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17th Oct 2011 2:21pm |
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| warren Member Since: 14 Oct 2009 Location: East Lancs. Posts: 903
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I was actually willing to give even the Kia Soul a chance a while back, until I realised depending on how you say it it sounds like 'key asshole' |
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17th Oct 2011 4:56pm |
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| DefenderOfTheEarth Member Since: 09 Nov 2010 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 1304 
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The pics here are dire but some of the more "developed" ones look a little better.
However they are using the old design "trick" of showing it with ENORMOUS wheels and ultra low profile tyres which are as useful off road as a pair of brand new Church Oxfords (shoes!). Sadly the fundamentals of the Defender conflict a lot with current trends - it MUST have bluetooth, sh4tnav, electric everything, must NOT be simple enough to repair but anyone without a £20k dedicated computer system, must be aerodynamic (i.e too low), must have almost every drivetrain system replaced with nannying electronics that break a lot, must be the size of a small Continent, must weigh at least three tonnes, must still have a CO2 output of under 100g/km, must have steering so lifeless that you wonder if they remembered to connect the wheels properly and must also have a bloated, plastic bodykit. So sadly, the Defender in it's current guise is doomed. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion. |
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14th Nov 2011 3:58pm |
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| discoed Member Since: 18 Nov 2011 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 19
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I think it has potential. It was never going to be the same as the defender, vehicle design and construction has moved on. It will be cheaper and easier to build. My main concern is that they produce a good, reliable, simple base version for commercial applications with fewer electronic gizmos. I think the latest pics in Autocar show a classy looking vehicle. The Defender will still be produced somewhere for sometime but its time has passed
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/la-motor...?im=473683 I want one! |
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