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mrtod



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This is the bit I really don't get...Why does the new Land Rover Defender need to pick up styling cues from the Range Rover product line up.

When BMW designed the new Mini they didn't say we have an icon but it would look a lot better if had a BMW grille. VW didn't say that the Bently or that the Beetle would look better if they had a look of Golf about them.

Land Rover have their very own icon. The new Defender should obviously be just that... instantly recognisable as a Defender.

Yes it needs to be new, ergonomic, pedestrian safe, economic to manufacture etc, etc....but non of that precludes it from being a defender...

The Wrangler JK looks like a Jeep. Park an early 911 next to a new one and there would be no difficulty in recognising the lineage.

So why do Land Rover want to turn their very own icon into a bargain basement Range Rover/Discovery? http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress.
Post #87109 1st Sep 2011 10:48pm
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farmer giles



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pom wrote:
i can just see farmer giles with a couple of sheep in the back of one then climbing into the cab with his $hitty wellies!

Looks to me like dumb spice had some input as she did with the gaylander3/evoque.

Pom


If i read that incorrectly then you accuse me of beastiality and you are guilty of dogging? Wink

land rover owners are special Thumbs Up


ps if i wrap a piece of carpet around my front bumper it becomes pedestrian friendly and compliant. Land rover i have sorted your design woes Razz
Post #87136 2nd Sep 2011 8:19am
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Sonic3d



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DG wrote:
Let the record show my forecast:

A year after production of the final incarnation of the DC100 there will be a whole new band of LR followers exulting the joys of the fantastic, go anywhere, practical and comfortable defender replacement. With them there will be many old Defender and LR supporters who might have been sceptical but will have been converted ......and for them the old defender will be long forgotten.

...the remainder of the die hard Defender types will be scratching their beards and pulling their woolly underpants out of the crack of their hairy ass saying ..." it's crap Rolling Eyes ..it ain't like the old days Rolling Eyes ...there's too many electric's Rolling Eyes ..... oh look it's stuck Rolling Eyes ...the old defender would never have done that Rolling Eyes " .........In truth, nobody else, including LR, will give a flying feck what they think .


Anyone want to place their bets ? Whistle Wink




Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Well said Thumbs Up
Post #87151 2nd Sep 2011 9:49am
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IKke



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Post #87177 2nd Sep 2011 11:54am
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mrtod



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DG wrote:
Let the record show my forecast:

A year after production of the final incarnation of the DC100 there will be a whole new band of LR followers exulting the joys of the fantastic, go anywhere, practical and comfortable defender replacement. With them there will be many old Defender and LR supporters who might have been sceptical but will have been converted ......and for them the old defender will be long forgotten.

...the remainder of the die hard Defender types will be scratching their beards and pulling their woolly underpants out of the crack of their hairy ass saying ..." it's crap Rolling Eyes ..it ain't like the old days Rolling Eyes ...there's too many electric's Rolling Eyes ..... oh look it's stuck Rolling Eyes ...the old defender would never have done that Rolling Eyes " .........In truth, nobody else, including LR, will give a flying feck what they think .


Anyone want to place their bets ? Whistle Wink


I'm sure they said that at the unveiling of the P38 Range Rover too. Whistle http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress.
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Happyoldgit



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mrtod wrote:


I'm sure they said that at the unveiling of the P38 Range Rover too. Whistle


Just as 'they' did when the 90 and then 110 were introduced. Bit like the old chap who bought a car off me a few months ago who turned up in a 109 pulling a transporter trailer - "I ain't bought a Land Rover since they got all silly and put the headlamps in the wings and shoved plastic dashboards in 'em" Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

[Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc]

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I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
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Siberianfox



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The Kahn version of the defender. SGT Kahn wtf Rolling with laughter




Dont shoot the messenger !

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Post #87204 2nd Sep 2011 2:45pm
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Setok



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Miserableolgit wrote:
mrtod wrote:


I'm sure they said that at the unveiling of the P38 Range Rover too. Whistle


Just as 'they' did when the 90 and then 110 were introduced. Bit like the old chap who bought a car off me a few months ago who turned up in a 109 pulling a transporter trailer - "I ain't bought a Land Rover since they got all silly and put the headlamps in the wings and shoved plastic dashboards in 'em"


People will always complain. Actually I'm still not that happy about losing galvanised cappings. However it's very obvious that 90s and 110s were direct descendants of the Series vehicles. A lot had been updated, but the look was still very closely related to the previous ones, the same self-maintenance mentality was there, you still got the windscreen flaps, and several components were compatible.

I don't think the D100 compares at all. If you showed a random person a picture of it, would they call it a Defender? Nope.
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tatra805 wrote:



That's nearer the mark Very Happy
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22900013A



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Zagato wrote:
tatra805 wrote:



That's nearer the mark Very Happy


I think thats a slightly shopped pic of the Ford Bronco concept. Shows who has been paying attention (Ford) and who hasn't (Landrover) eh? 2011 110 USW
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...because everybody gives a graphic opinion, here it's mine ... Whistle

Although this would not be my aproach, here it goes ...higher bonnet, straight back, vertical windshield, vertical door line to bottom sills, lower spare wheel ...


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Joao

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Post #87242 2nd Sep 2011 6:04pm
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mrtod



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Miserableolgit wrote:
mrtod wrote:


I'm sure they said that at the unveiling of the P38 Range Rover too. Whistle


Just as 'they' did when the 90 and then 110 were introduced. Bit like the old chap who bought a car off me a few months ago who turned up in a 109 pulling a transporter trailer - "I ain't bought a Land Rover since they got all silly and put the headlamps in the wings and shoved plastic dashboards in 'em"



A bit like...erm, for me at least, no.

Land Rover eventually saw the error of their ways, retired the uninspired metro cab clone and replaced it with the L322. Which, I personally loved the minute it came out (as I do the Evoque). I saw the L322 as wonderfully modern, instantly recognisable, reinterpretation of a classic.

I have been really looking forward to the new defender but I for one just feel that this is an uninspired effort. http://projectd90.blogspot.com/ - a work in progress.
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