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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997   
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Transfer box is just fill til it comes out of the plug, its the main gearbox that needs a specific amount. I use Motul Gear 300 on the recommendation of Opie Oils. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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10th Sep 2017 5:15pm |
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| UtilityTruck Member Since: 09 Jan 2014 Location: Oxford Posts: 463
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I'm currently changing all fluids on my 2.2 110. I found it odd that the T-Box oil spec was kinda vague compared to the other items requiring lubrication.
I've seen 75W-90 and Castrol Syntrax listed, although not in the same place! I ended up with Castrol Syntrax Longlife 75W-90 from Opie, however there was another Castrol Syntrax oil of the same grade listed which was not specified as 'longlife '. Hopefully it'll be OK. I need to make a trip to the dealer later in the month to pick up the specific gearbox oil as I want to make sure I use the correct stuff and the dealer seems to be the only place to get Castrol BOT 130M. Anyone know the spec of lubricant for greasing the props? I can find no spec anywhere.. I imagine that means it's not critical, but would like some reassurance!! |
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10th Sep 2017 7:34pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 530  
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No, I'm afraid this is not the case on a Puma, please check the Workskop manual:
The Workshop manual also states that the recommended oil is SAE 75W/90 or SAE 80W/90, API GL5, MIL-L-2105 (inc B, C and D) and a capacity of 2.3 litres (4.0 pints) “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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19th Sep 2017 1:12pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2664 
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all in here http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8707.html Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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19th Sep 2017 1:38pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2287 
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Hello Tractorman
Castrol Site (good for Specifications & Capacities even if you match or improve elsewhere) Oil Specifications / Capacities / Service Intervals / for a Defender 90 2.4 2007-2011 Engine / Transmission (Gearbox) / Transfer Box / Differentials (Axles) / Grease / Coolant http://applications.castrol.com/oilselecto...2007-2011) I used this for the Gearbox and Transfer Box and Front / Rear Differentials... (via D2N Supporter OPIE Oils) Motul Gear 300 75W-90 Synthetic Racing Gear & Differential Oil X 10L Transmission (Getrag Gearbox MT82) 75W 90 / 3 x 1L Transfer Box (LT230Q) + Front & Rear Differentials 75W 90 / 7 x 1L 
Land Rover Specifications for the 2.4 (90 + 110) Click image to enlarge Good Luck SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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19th Sep 2017 2:22pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 3997
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No, I'm afraid this is not the case on a Puma, please check the Workskop manual:
That's fair enough, my mistake. I'm sure the thread linked to by Martin K says to fill level with the plug though, unless the level plug is different to the fill plug? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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19th Sep 2017 2:33pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
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19th Sep 2017 3:03pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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It does say that in the Puma manual, but i think it's an error in the manual.
It's the same transfer box as the TD5, and the TD5 manual says fill to the level of the plug. The Puma manual also doesn't appear to give a capacity for the Puma transfer box. But everwhere i've looked gives the same capacity of 2.3litres for both the TD5 and Puma transfer box. If you put 2.3 litres in either it brings it up to the level of the filler plug. So just fill the transfer box up until it dribbles out of the filler - don't however do this with the Puma gearbox. |
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19th Sep 2017 3:12pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
error in the manual.
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19th Sep 2017 3:28pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2287
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Hello o4dn...All... Is this correct... 
Transfer gearbox oil renewal Haynes say 'fill until the oil level reaches the lower edge of the hole' (so that must be right...  )
I have always worked with... Engine Fill with a Measured Capacity (Dip Stick) Approx <7.0Lts MT82 Gear Box Fill with a Measured Capacity NOT To Filler Plug 2.2Lts Service (2.4Lts Initial Fill) LT230Q Transfer Box Fill to Filler Plug <2.4Lts (2.3Lts quoted) Differentials Fill to Filler Plug <1.7Lts SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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19th Sep 2017 3:34pm |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2664
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Transfer box - filler is also the level plug Gearbox - measure correctly - filler plug is NOT level plug Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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19th Sep 2017 4:09pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 530
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The LT230 being the same in the Puma and older defenders doesn't necessarily mean the level is at the plug though, the Puma engine being taller, the transfer box is positioned differently (leaning forward?) which would explain why the filling plug is not the level plug on a Puma.
But everyone is entitled to his own opinions of course, I tend to trust the Workshop manual for these things (even though it does have errors at times, I concur), having seen the the o-ring on the intermediate shaft to fail on a Puma TB as early as 60k... (not mine). “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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20th Sep 2017 7:54am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 16877 
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The Puma engine is nose-up in the chassis, so the transfer box is tilted back. Since the transfer box filler is on the rear face of the box, there will be marginally less oil in the box when filled to the plughole than on earlier vehicles, assuming that they are filled on completely level ground.
Curiously this tilt was blamed (by LR) for the problems with oil leakage into the handbrake on the TDCi despite the fact that on all models with the LT230 the front and rear output shafts are submerged. I never really understood that! |
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20th Sep 2017 8:22am |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 530
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Fair enough, but that doesn't make any sense to me then, why would LR recommend an even smaller capacity for the same transfer box?
And the numbers (from the relevant workshop manuals) don't seem to agree either: Capacity of a LT230QRS on a Defender Puma: 2.3l Capacity of a LT230TE on a Defender TD5: 2.3l Capacity of a LT230SE on a Disco2 TD5: Fill from dry 2.3l, refill 2.0l “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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20th Sep 2017 9:00am |
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