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custom90



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Clutch, help!
Just knocked onto 40k never had any clutch issues until now been on the same clutch since 13k at least or maybe even from new.
Driving along today there was some different clutch behaviour, the bite was there but it seemed that the clutch was up but drive was taken up momentarily later happened a couple of times.
Almost felt like it was slipping, pulling into my drive it felt odd again and then the engine cut out too on bringing the clutch up no engine warning light and I don't think it's an engine issue.
It started fine then I did park up.
I'm pretty sure the clutch is on it's last legs, do you agree? I'm guessing not driving it until it gets replaced is on the cards. Sad
I know they tend to go all of a sudden and I don't want to put myself in that position if I can help it.

Suggestions and thoughts would be helpful. Thumbs Up
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custom90



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I must add to the above which I didn't think to mention previously that there is some judder occasionally pulling off in 1st and reverse. It's got progressively worse and sometimes doesn't do it at all.
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Certainly sounds to me like the clutch has had it steve, best to get it changed ASAP. We did one at work the other day and the damaged springs from the centre plate had been scoring nasty grooves in the flywheel where the chap drove it to destruction!
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custom90



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Yep, I think it's best I don't drive it and try and get it done ASAP.
Not under warranty though, gulp!
Not help by the fact I have no other transport either.
Post #352656 20th Aug 2014 9:15am
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Steve, mine developed similar symptoms to yours, it was a bit sporadic but quite unnerving when easing the clutch up. It has had the death rattle for a while now but the slipping and lurching has only happened over the last couple of weeks. It's in at my indie today getting a new clutch kit having had to wait 10 days for a free slot.

Sounds like you need to get it sorted fairly pronto. 2015 90 XS CSW TDCi - Beautiful
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Post #352663 20th Aug 2014 10:15am
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Morning Rus,

Is that the Hamworthy or Alder Hills independant? Be intersted to know how much their charging. PM or give me a tinkle if you don't want to go public.

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blackwolf



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Steve, if you get a new clutch fitted ask whoever does it to inspect the gearbox output adaptor shaft splined coupling whilst they're at it. It is a relatively easy and quick job if the box is coming out anyway, but a major pain if it fails since you are completely without drive.

The '07 model year seems on the whole to be less problematic in this respect than many later ones (perhaps LR changed suppliers later) and mine was still perfect at 140k miles, so hopefully yours willbe too.

If you do get this done, ask the mechanic to smother the coupling in molybdenum grease (CV joint grease) before reassembly.

I'm not sure if you go to a main dealer or an independent for work of this kind (or do it yourself), but the bad news is that a new clutch from a main dealer is likely to be about £1200 fitted. The parts are around £200 if you go OEM not LR, IIRC. It is not actually a difficult job to do yourself, the biggest problem is that the gearbox is so heavy - when I did mine I took the transfer box off first, then the gearbox, which made it a lot easier (I was fitting a new transfer box anyway, and wanted to inspect the coupling).

Good luck!
Post #352666 20th Aug 2014 10:22am
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K9F



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Looking through the threads £1000+ seems to be the going rate. Shocked

Think considering the cost of the parts I would attempt this myself perhaps if/when the time arrives? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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custom90



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Cheers for the info Mal, I will bear that in mind.
Cost or not it's not a job I'd contemplate doing, I don't have the tools nor the time.
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I think Porny does an uprated version? May be worth considering? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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rustyboxx



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Hey Mal, it's A L Services near Sterte. Used him for ages now and have no reason to go elsewhere. I'll post up what the final bill is for the clutch work.

I'm not very impressed with the Alder Hills indie as his quotes seem to be steep and he even tried to convince me that a Puma has a DMF that would need replacing with the clutch kit Shocked 2015 90 XS CSW TDCi - Beautiful
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Post #352684 20th Aug 2014 11:31am
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Rus, there is plenty of information on here about DMF replacement with a clutch. I suppose if you're in the position of a clutch replacement due consideration may have to be given if it's worth doing the DMF at the same time? I don't know? If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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I personally wouldnt change a clutch without DMF if it was being changed due to wear, if it was just a freak clutch failure then you may be ok. Any good garage will check the DMF anyway and advise you before fitting it all back together. The expensive bit is the labour so you dont want to be doing it again for a while. 2001 TD5 110 County Station Wagon - sold
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bob neville



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I thought Puma's did not have a DMF and TD5's did ??

As Russ is talking about a Puma then they should not have been quoting for a DMF ?

Totally confused of Somerset Laughing

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Hey Bob, yeah I'm with you on that one, no DMF on a Puma as far as I'm aware. Maybe the indie was having a brain fart at the time but I wasn't falling for it. Now had it been my previous TD5 then no problem. 2015 90 XS CSW TDCi - Beautiful
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