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custom90



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What was it doing?
Post #356586 8th Sep 2014 9:02pm
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amondeggs



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Started as a knocking coming back through clutch pedal then became vibration under load. Was in Cornwall on holiday when it happened. Managed to get to local indi Landrover garage and they rekoned it was thrust washers in crank shaft causing play in crankshaft. I had never heard of this an contacted Ian at irb who agreed that it was most probably flywheel.

So here I am taking it to bits. Wouldn't mind but did it all 18 mths ago. Fitted new gearbox, clutch and flywheel.

I have not had time to closely examine it since taking it apart but will do so at the weekend.

I know all the nuts and bolts if my car now lol
Post #356592 8th Sep 2014 9:35pm
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amondeggs



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Had a not so glamourous journey back from holiday

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Funny thing was this truck did not have the power to pick up my defender and they had to send for another one : Laughing

I worry it may be the crankshaft as the engine is high milage at 208000 miles

We shall see??
Post #356603 8th Sep 2014 9:56pm
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custom90



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Not a sight you want to see too often is it. ^^
I meant to mention earlier, Guy Salmon did look at the splined shaft in the end.
They said it looked in very good condition, so it should be at 40k too!
But, as mentioned and advised by Blackwolf I asked them to Moly grease it which they have done. Thumbs Up
I saw the old parts, they were indeed worn but didn't fiddle whilst there with pics myself because I'd get the showroom dirty. Laughing
They might have taken some photos themselves which they might email, shall have to follow that up as it was mentioned.
I didn't realise that the clutch it's self was so friggin heavy though! Shocked
Post #356644 8th Sep 2014 11:48pm
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XS Pete



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Assuming Steve, you intended for them to inspect and grease the often talked about output shaft between the main gearbox and transfer box, lets hope they didn't simply blindly follow the instructions printed on your invoice.

The instructions read 'If clutch is required please grease drive splines...', and most mechanics would probably have just read that and gone ahead and greased the drive splines of the input shaft to the gearbox which the clutch sits on, and not have seperated the transfer box from the main gearbox and greased that shaft, which I'm sure is what you intended.

If some monkey has slapped grease all over the shaft the clutch sits on, you'll be taking it back soon for another replacement as the rotational movement will throw any grease all over the clutch.

Lets hope not.
Post #358386 17th Sep 2014 10:49am
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custom90



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I did mention the specific component in question so they shouldn't have...
If they did it's their problem and error..
All seems good now at least, I couldn't really sit and watch as they do the job.
Had to happen just the very week we have a family bereavement. Sad
Post #358389 17th Sep 2014 11:02am
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custom90



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You'd have to be pretty dense anyway to grease the splines the clutch sits on or it'll obviously cause problems and serve no purpose either.
Since having it back I engaged low range yesterday.
Can't help but notice it's smooth as anything now, nothing heavy just smooth in the transfer process and no clunk either.


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Post #358390 17th Sep 2014 11:09am
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XS Pete



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Quote:
You'd have to be pretty dense anyway to grease the splines the clutch sits on or it'll obviously cause problems and serve no purpose easier


You're not wrong there. Although, it's not uncommon to wipe the tiniest amount of 'copperslip' along these splines to allow the clutch plate easy movement, but grease is a big 'no no'.
Post #358395 17th Sep 2014 11:24am
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custom90



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Funny you mention that, I was thinking that too but as you say the minimum amount needed.
I'd also tend to assume the splines might need a flight clean up too.
I did actually speak to the chap doing the job and he was the one in charge of the workshop who actually did mine and he knew what I was talking about.
I'm not an expert myself but handed the info recommended on here via myself to him regarding the splined shaft.
He said it was in good condition which is good.
Iirc he said the clutch plate had high and low points.
I didn't really look at the clutch myself even though they brought it in a box to show me as it was so dirty and mainly because I didn't want to make a mess.
I could see that the clutch it's self was well worn though..
I could have brought it home but I didn't want to dispose of the damned thing really so I didn't bother.
There's no more judder in first or reverse moving off now, feels smooth.
No rattle be that cured by the clutch or rear diff leak / flange fixed so all seems good touch wood.
Now I have trailer docket issues I've got to rot out now. Got to smile though haven't you. Smile
Post #358397 17th Sep 2014 11:43am
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custom90steve wrote:
You'd have to be pretty dense anyway to grease the splines the clutch sits on or it'll obviously cause problems and serve no purpose either.
Since having it back I engaged low range yesterday.
Can't help but notice it's smooth as anything now, nothing heavy just smooth in the transfer process and no clunk either.

Sorted Thumbs Up . Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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