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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
2nd gear MT82

Hi Guys

Ive been feeling a bit concern (or became hypochondriac) when shifting up/down to 2nd gear in normal street conditions. It doesn`t sound like an old series, but I can feel in my hand certain difficulty. I can not really recall if I had this since the begining but for me is the synchro going bang.

Any of you guys has this issue?

thanks


MK Puma 110" SW

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Post #15617 18th Sep 2009 12:30am
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Tim_NZ



Member Since: 05 May 2008
Location: Australia
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Australia 

Could be your clutch??


LTB00166
Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection
Models:
Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150
Markets: All
Section: 308-00
Summary:
Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation.
Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to
address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation
concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24.
Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure
detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00.
Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours
Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: URB500080
ACES Condition
Code:


Cheers,

Tim

Post #15619 18th Sep 2009 2:15am
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Allan



Member Since: 09 Sep 2009
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I think its a live with it thing at this time. Mine has had it from new,now done 9000kms. Had gearbox change (noise issues) Modified clutch due to rattle and chatter at low speeds. I still have 1st to 2nd issue with the gearbox but believe it may be a very slow synchro. If I slow the change or double clutch no problems. Time will tell.

Allan

Post #15620 18th Sep 2009 2:31am
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Niel



Member Since: 14 Sep 2009
Location: Sandton
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South Africa 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Hallo Guys,
This is my first posting. Its great to know there is a Defender forum.
I have the same problem with 2nd gear. I have taken it back for a test drive with the dealers twice. But they not too concerned. I did mention the clutch issue to them but they said no, its not the same thing. It just does not feel right in your hand when you select 2nd gear, it almost scratches sometimes. They said they can replace the gearbox but that is up to me.?
Dont know what to do.
Niel Puma 110 sw White
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Post #15622 18th Sep 2009 6:51am
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bob neville



Member Since: 30 Apr 2009
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England 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Firenze Red

Mine goes in next Tuesday for the same thing. It is difficult on engage 2nd and 3rd gear on the upshift.

The change was OK for about the first 1700 miles but now seems to be getting worse.

Bob

Post #15623 18th Sep 2009 8:10am
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Allan



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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Niel, get it replaced. Got to be worth a try. As someone said over here, its the only vehicle he has had that gets newer the longer he has it!!!!!
Allan

Post #15625 18th Sep 2009 10:04am
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Niel



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South Africa 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

But Defender is still so new, only 3000km's on it. I think I will drive it to 10000km and then take it back for a new one if the problem still persists. And as you say, then i will have a new gearbox again !!!! Puma 110 sw White
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Post #15628 18th Sep 2009 10:12am
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bob neville



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England 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Firenze Red

Just checked my chassis number and it starts 9A780... well after the range specified on the TB - that is not to say that my vehicle does not have an older clutch fitted knowing the problems LR have had with parts.

Going to be an interesting visit to the dealers next week !

Bob

Post #15634 18th Sep 2009 12:50pm
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Allan



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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

Mine is a 2008 SVX, 12 months old next month and only 4000km at box change. Get the new box, if it is the same gear change problem you have 2 yearsfor LR to fix it. You may be lucky, my second box is much better than the one they replaced. The old one, when cold had trouble with 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd. I still think its due to such a low 1st gear and slow syncro. Having not driven a Transit (God Forbid) I have no Idea of what this box is like in other guises so I may be wrong.

Allan

Post #15640 18th Sep 2009 3:49pm
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bob neville



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England 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Firenze Red

Allan

That sums the problem up nicely !

When cold the change from 1st to second and 2nd to third is exactly as if the syncro has gone.
After 10 minutes driving it does get better but it is still notchy.

Bob

Post #15642 18th Sep 2009 4:37pm
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Allan



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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

As I said I would get it changed if that is what they offer

Allan

Post #15647 19th Sep 2009 12:27am
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

good move Puma 110" SW

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Post #15649 19th Sep 2009 1:53am
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Niel



Member Since: 14 Sep 2009
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South Africa 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

Mine seem to be a slightly different issue. I does not make a differance hot or cold, this morning I even tried it in low range and it still difficult from 1st to 2nd. Puma 110 sw White
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Post #15690 21st Sep 2009 6:10am
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Allan



Member Since: 09 Sep 2009
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Australia 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black

I would get it looked at in that case. Its probably more evident in low range is it?

Allan

Post #15694 21st Sep 2009 9:32am
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey

I've had the same problem and the Dealer told me, well they are tractor like Rolling with laughter NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY

Post #15698 21st Sep 2009 10:59am
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