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jst



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its done and it works! Cheers

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Post #177174 19th Oct 2012 5:21pm
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We cannot compete with some of the pricing on Thermo top C's you guys find but do have an alternative for Puma mounting which is under the n/s wing on RHD cars using our own custom bracket Thumbs Up

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jst wrote:
^^ thats my understanding too. i dont want the inside warm, i just want an engine pre warmer. but as i understand it if its plumbed into the the actual heater valvle block if the heater is off (ie on cold) then the coolant wont flow through the webasto?

i intend to fit it between the egr return and the return from to the engine.

ie between the T piece that goes to the engine coming from the heater, and egr return, that way the webasto will have flow regardless of what the heater valve is on.




A - When the heater is ALL OFF the cooling water enter from "3" and go directly to the "4" (no flow on heater).

B - When the heater is ALL ON the cooling water enter from "3" and go trough "2", heater matrix, "1" and, at least, return t the engine circuit "4".

In the "middle" regulation is a "mix" of A and B



is it clear?

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mobilecentre wrote:
We cannot compete with some of the pricing on Thermo top C's you guys find but do have an alternative for Puma mounting which is under the n/s wing on RHD cars using our own custom bracket Thumbs Up



Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry

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dgardel wrote:
jst wrote:
^^ thats my understanding too. i dont want the inside warm, i just want an engine pre warmer. but as i understand it if its plumbed into the the actual heater valvle block if the heater is off (ie on cold) then the coolant wont flow through the webasto?

i intend to fit it between the egr return and the return from to the engine.

ie between the T piece that goes to the engine coming from the heater, and egr return, that way the webasto will have flow regardless of what the heater valve is on.




A - When the heater is ALL OFF the cooling water enter from "3" and go directly to the "4" (no flow on heater).

B - When the heater is ALL ON the cooling water enter from "3" and go trough "2", heater matrix, "1" and, at least, return t the engine circuit "4".

In the "middle" regulation is a "mix" of A and B



is it clear?


perfect, thank you

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Post #177312 19th Oct 2012 10:48pm
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mobilecentre wrote:
We cannot compete with some of the pricing on Thermo top C's you guys find but do have an alternative for Puma mounting which is under the n/s wing on RHD cars using our own custom bracket Thumbs Up



thats where mine has just been fitted. bloody tight on the intake cowl though. Cheers

James
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90 Puma Hardtop
Post #177313 19th Oct 2012 10:49pm
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James - make sure you leave enough room behind the wing - as you know these units get hot Thumbs Up
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dgardel wrote:
mobilecentre wrote:
We cannot compete with some of the pricing on Thermo top C's you guys find but do have an alternative for Puma mounting which is under the n/s wing on RHD cars using our own custom bracket Thumbs Up



Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry

When I studied my installation I tried the same possibility also, but no room here for LHD Puma (clutch pedal/pump).


yes, but on LHD you can use BMW X5 installation kit ... like I did Thumbs Up
Post #177346 20th Oct 2012 8:12am
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bpman wrote:
dgardel wrote:
mobilecentre wrote:
We cannot compete with some of the pricing on Thermo top C's you guys find but do have an alternative for Puma mounting which is under the n/s wing on RHD cars using our own custom bracket Thumbs Up



Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry

When I studied my installation I tried the same possibility also, but no room here for LHD Puma (clutch pedal/pump).


yes, but on LHD you can use BMW X5 installation kit ... like I did Thumbs Up


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bpman wrote:
James - make sure you leave enough room behind the wing - as you know these units get hot Thumbs Up


theres about a 30mm air gap around it, seems ok so far! Cheers

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Post #177362 20th Oct 2012 9:18am
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um think i've got the wrong dip tube for the tank.

what have you fitted? mines 300 mm long? seems to short.

The loom i ordered from Turkey off Ebay along with a few other bits has arrived. Very good service.

So far i've spent £180. i have a second set of plugs to make another loom.

this is great!
Post #177455 20th Oct 2012 5:01pm
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jst



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i ordered the one off the link posted before, i had to cut 1/3 - 1/2 of it off. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #177502 20th Oct 2012 8:03pm
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https://sales.butlertechnik.com/vehicle-he...-41s45017a

i used this one.

you may get away with a 300mm one, i can measure how much i cut off! have the ends but cant remember how much i left on. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #177503 20th Oct 2012 8:05pm
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jst



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just to say the thermo top C has been in since Sat and i am very pleased with it.

with 9 deg amb and no internal heating, 20mins or just under brings it up to 58 deg or so, i have mine plumbed to heat the block first and it works for what i want.

Airtop has been in for 10 days now (ish) and is working a treat, i may move the air intake (comb side) at one point, but it will suffice for now.

Just to say a big thank you to everyone on here for their help and advice in the fitting, greatly appreciated. Cheers

James
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130 Puma Station wagon/camper (in the making)
90 Puma Hardtop
Post #178403 23rd Oct 2012 8:06pm
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good day today. dropped tank, fitted line and pump. tried to fit loom and webasto bit failing light and enthusiasm beat me.


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easy enough although i did have a moment when the fuel gauge wouldn't go back up Big Cry did after 30 seconds Thumbs Up loom to fit and webasto unit.
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