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bpman



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so much for product testing. I guess the 2.2's are under more stress than the 2.4's (blood/stone ...)

the 2.2 was lifted from another car, have a search on the forums to see if its common to the engine or how land rover have implemented it.

I had a golf 150tdi - the turbo hoses used to pop-off once in a while until I self tappered them together.

has anyone run a diagnostics on the turbo pressure, is it more than a 2.4 ? I guess it is Shocked
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ZeDefender



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With my manifold screaming like a banshee, what chance does a 2.2 have? Shocked Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Axel



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Doublecabdefender wrote:
The split is on the inside of the pipe, not the outside. I believe the pressure exerted on the pipe is immense when under load, tape might protect the external surface but I don't think that is the issue. I think its a poor design, LR gave me a call today and said they are trying to source a much wider jubilee clip which should almost fill the indent in the turbo outlet. Hopefully eliminating any form of slippage.


I would appreciate it very much if you could keep us posted!!! THANKS!!!! Thumbs Up Bow down Best Regards,

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ZeDefender



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Might be a good idea to fit a wider jubilee on 2.4s as well Whistle
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Would fitting Silicone hoses void the warranty if it solved this issue?
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Allan



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I think half the problem is the hose clip design. It folds under the hose to hold the clip in place, this puts the host very slightly out of round. Perhaps try cutting the folded section from the clip or get some h.d hose clips

Allan
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I've always thought jubilee clips are such a poor design, they are a pain in the ass, surprised something better hasn't been devised yet! Confused
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Allan



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There is a much better design clip available which I used to use on my Subaru's intercooler. Far stronger, and able to cope with big boost. Since modifieing the original clamp I've had no further problems. I have heard of a few 2.4's having hoses blow off over here.

Allan
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ZeDefender



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Allan wrote:
There is a much better design clip available

More info please?
I expect when the dealers (try to) fix my turbo squeal they will b*gger up the hose/clip - I want to be prepared...
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It is in such an awkward place too! Is it possible to remove the trunking from the air filter box to get at ithe clip without upsetting any of the sensors and then getting fault codes.?
Had a jubilee clip on a 200 tdi go. It was on the engine and led to copious amounts of oil being spewed everywhere. Happened to someone on the Australian site (the 200 tdi hose clip) too. I always carry spare hoseclips with me. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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Simon, thanks for the heads up re this. I double checked mine this morning and all appears ok. but as the guys said, may blow under strain, so thats when mrs N goes to Tesco Saturday then Whistle In terms of an alternative product, i have used these on a previous car. much stronger and as long as you can get access you can tighten with much more purpose.

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Hi Nidge

Wow that looks just the job, jubilee clips are so pathetic - I shall try and source one straightaway. I can see no problem getting it around the pipe whatsoever. Thanks for the info. Thumbs Up

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Lorryman100 wrote:
On 2009 builds as well, caught this in time.


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Mines similar! It won't pull off or wiggle about, will keep an eye on it though as they probably slide off gradually... The hose itself doesn't seem to have the right angle on it Rolling Eyes I bet everyone else's is the same because of this?



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chatting to the mechanics at the dealers today this hose has blown of on most of the 2.2s they have had and they are now checking them before pick up, they also said LR have not issued a fix yet, they also said the problem does not appear to happen on 2.4s even those that are older and work hard for a living DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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bpman



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if a 2.2 can produce as much power and torque as a 2.4 it must be more highly tuned/stressed .. blood, stone etc...
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