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jst



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TDCi - fuel feed system

is is an HP system all the way from the tank the same as a td5?

ie if i want a fuel feed supply do i need to go back to the tank or can i T it off a fuel line?
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No. The TD5 has the pump in the tank giving positive pressure in the fuel lines through the filter to the engine. The TDCi has a pump unit on the engine which creates a negative pressure in the fuel line drawing the fuel through the filter to the engine.
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Interesting.

Hence the issue of water being ingested via the fuel tank breather valve. A postive pressurised tank would not have the same problem.

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so if i needed to get a fuel supply for a webasto i would need to go straight to the tank then i guess?
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one_iota wrote:
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Interesting.

Hence the issue of water being ingested via the fuel tank breather valve. A postive pressurised tank would not have the same problem.

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The td5 tank doesn't get positive pressure, it still holds a partial vacuum as it drains, it just doesnt seem to get as big as the TDCi. When I open the fuel cap on my TD5 you can hear the air get sucked in when the seal breaks. I do have long range tanks though (150l).
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jst wrote:
so if i needed to get a fuel supply for a webasto i would need to go straight to the tank then i guess?


I guess you take it from the fuel return line, that would be under some pressure. Wether it would have the volume and pressure required for what you want I don't know. Taking a separate feed from the tank may indeed be a better/safer option.
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Webastos come with their own feed pump so i guess from the tank may be the way to go.

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Would not bother with the webasto , Puma's have a heating system Thumbs Up
Just can not see the hassle of fitting / swapping over, worth it
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thats what i was thinking, ones at work seem to warm up a lot quicker than the td5 so i am unlikely to bother but was just wondering

maybe the tdci warms up quicker due to the lack of oil in the top part of the engine.......... Shocked
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The puma's warm up just a quickly as most modern cars (and like any other tdci ford) so i would say you wont need one.

Whilst im waiting i put the heated seats on (although we have only had 1 cold morning since April to test it)
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