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geobloke



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Naks wrote:
Gents, I have the option to buy a 2nd hand ATB with 10,000km at half the price of a new one.

Worth it? What could be wrong in there that a visual inspection won't reveal?


Given your location as long as the unit is in good nick then I would jump on that. Thumbs Up
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
^ And so I did!

Got it fitted, and straight away noticed the following:

- the steering is a lot heavier
- there is a lot more understeer now
- the steering doesn't return to centre as quickly

Oh well, gone are the days of slinging it around the many traffic circles in town then Rolling with laughter --
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geobloke



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Never fear Naks it does improve a lot Thumbs Up Give it time and you'll find that the ATB will loosen up a bit and the understeer will reduce and the steering lighten. Or you will grow bigger muscles Rolling Eyes
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I can still get my landy and a trailer through tyre chicanes on race circuits at the same speed I could before getting a front ATB fitted.
What under steer Smile all is well in that area 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
geobloke wrote:
Never fear Naks it does improve a lot Thumbs Up Give it time and you'll find that the ATB will loosen up a bit and the understeer will reduce and the steering lighten. Or you will grow bigger muscles Rolling Eyes


Rolling with laughter


At full lock, e.g., turning in & out of a parking bay, there's some grabbing - is that normal? Any way to dial it back a touch? --
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2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
^ turns out that the workshop forgot to refit the turn stoppers Evil or Very Mad --
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geobloke



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As in the steering stops on the swivel housings? Shocked
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
^ yep, those very same ones. no wonder the tyres were grabbing at full lock.

took it back, and they fitted them on the spot, and adjusted the handbrake as well, it was clanking at low speeds. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Did a trail this weekend, it was raining quite a bit, so slippery gravel/rocks.

Not sure the front ATB made a big difference, TBH... --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
While investigating a clunk in the rear diff when taking off from standstill, this is what we found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LandRoverDefender...r_6_years/

there was also no play at all on the crown when cold, so it was eating the rear side shafts. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Unfortunately whatever is in your link requires the installation of an "app" (which I have no intention of doing) and is not viewable without.
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
odd, it's just a reddit link Rolling Eyes --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Any clues why this happened?

It can be fixed I reckon



Naks wrote:
While investigating a clunk in the rear diff when taking off from standstill, this is what we found:

https://new.reddit.com/r/LandRoverDefender...r_6_years/


there was also no play at all on the crown when cold, so it was eating the rear side shafts.
 Puma 110" SW

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Earth first. Other planets later
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
dunno, I started experiencing a clunk when driving from standstill, so this is what led us here.

This Ashcroft ATB was installed in August 2017, and has done about 24,000km. So I guess the bearings eventually got loose enough to start causing the issue? --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ
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